interested in speaking to Lexus GX 470 owners with rusted frames
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interested in speaking to Lexus GX 470 owners with rusted frames
I am interested in speaking to LEXUS GX470 owners with rusted frames. I am attempting to find others in this situation to hopefully pursue a class action lawsuit much like the Toyota Tacoma, Tundra, and Sequoia.
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Mine is a California (previous owner), Texas & Carolinas (me) car. Zero rust.
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Mine is an '04 that's lived it's whole life in Manitoba, Canada. Salt on the roads is a given, undercarriage has surface rust all over, one of my gas tank straps was recently replaced as it rusted right through, but the frame seems fine.
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I have an 06' which spent the majority of it's life in New England. Rust is not too bad for a 12 year old car, but I wish it was better. I used Rust Bullet for my Porsche 912 restoration and that stuff is AMAZING! I highly recommend it. Just some simple sanding, sand/media blasting, or wire wheel the paint on. Make sure you want it, because it will not come off unless you take the metal with it. I will be using it on my GX chassis once I get the time to help protect it from the crazy northeast.
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The welds are far more likely to rust than the actual frame, but of course it all depends on your region and how the GX has been taken care of. Anecdote: My brother-in-law and myself both bought GM cars around the same time. His car went to the scrapyard due to frame rust while mine still looked like brand new underneath, shiny paint and 0 rust. Only difference was that I knew how to take care of a car.
My GX began life in New York then migrated to the Colorado Mountains where mag chloride is used extensively. No rust on frame, only a little rust on some of the welds.
My GX began life in New York then migrated to the Colorado Mountains where mag chloride is used extensively. No rust on frame, only a little rust on some of the welds.
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To revive an older thread. I was having the GX serviced at a Toyota dealer here in NJ. I walked around back and there were two piles of truck frames sitting out there, one pile all rusted frames another with brand new frames stacked on pallets....the rusted ones looked just like the underside of my truck. Live here in NJ... not a lot of salt, but truck gets washed more than regularly in the winter and undercarriage is also sprayed down at car wash. I have covered most of the welds with rustolieum and rubberized undercoating....rust just keeps on rearing its ugly head....
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UNSAFE!!! Entire Rear Axle Housing Rusted Loose A tremendous amount of
Two years later I was driving from the airport and noticed a sound from underneath the car so I pulled over Only to see my driver side rear tire was sticking outside of the wheel well and my passenger side Was pulled all the way in. The noise was caused by the driveshaft rubbing against the side of the gas tank. I replaced the entire rear end myself... couldn’t afford to have the dealer do it. I also reported it to the NHTSA with NOREPLY.
Then I neutralized the rust and put some rust protection on all of the places I could reach at that time.
Now just a few weeks ago my air suspension pump failed. When I went to make the repair it was evident the rust had gotten much worse. The sensors were completely rusted and the air pump was extremely loose because portions of its Mounting brackets were completely rusted off.
It’s a total nightmare and I recommend that nobody purchases a used Lexus GX 470... Plus I am almost afraid of driving it because it’s going to fall apart somewhere else. It’s amazing there is not a recall on this vehicle! Actually there should be a voluntary recall from Toyota Lexus on this issue... it’s probably worse than the recall on the truck frames a while back.
If anybody else out there wants to start a class action lawsuit please contact me because this is total BS. I’m not sure if I’m allowed to post my email address on this forum so I’m suggesting you go to my company’s website to contact me. Allyfinishing.com
Shame shame shame on Toyota/Lexus
best regards,
Jon B.
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Can Dealer Rigg Car-Fax? Perfect Car-Fax Report... dealer serviced / 5000 miles
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Let’s see… why did I purchase this low mileage SUV?
1. I guess I should have not trusted the CarFax report?
2.) So you would purchase a vehicle that requires $1,300+ service soon after you purchase it?
Most used vehicles for sale when I was shopping we’re just shy of the timing belt replacement interval. Have you priced that lately? Service also recommends replacing the water pump.
The vehicle had a perfect Carfax report showing it was serviced every 5000 miles at a Lexus dealer.
A low mileage vehicle with an absolute perfect Carfax report showing serviced like clockwork at a Lexus dealership. And absolutely no reference to the patch welding on the axle housing mounts and fallen heat shields.
How could a Lexus dealer’s Service Shop not see multiple heat shields hanging loose from missing fasteners, large chunks of rust hanging loosely from the frame, a failed rear axle bracket... plus more... and not report it?
Has anybody ever heard of a Carfax report being doctored? Because this was extremely suspect after finding these problems.
1. I guess I should have not trusted the CarFax report?
2.) So you would purchase a vehicle that requires $1,300+ service soon after you purchase it?
Most used vehicles for sale when I was shopping we’re just shy of the timing belt replacement interval. Have you priced that lately? Service also recommends replacing the water pump.
The vehicle had a perfect Carfax report showing it was serviced every 5000 miles at a Lexus dealer.
A low mileage vehicle with an absolute perfect Carfax report showing serviced like clockwork at a Lexus dealership. And absolutely no reference to the patch welding on the axle housing mounts and fallen heat shields.
How could a Lexus dealer’s Service Shop not see multiple heat shields hanging loose from missing fasteners, large chunks of rust hanging loosely from the frame, a failed rear axle bracket... plus more... and not report it?
Has anybody ever heard of a Carfax report being doctored? Because this was extremely suspect after finding these problems.
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Let’s see… why did I purchase this low mileage SUV?
1. I guess I should have not trusted the CarFax report?
2.) So you would purchase a vehicle that requires $1,300+ service soon after you purchase it?
Most used vehicles for sale when I was shopping we’re just shy of the timing belt replacement interval. Have you priced that lately? Service also recommends replacing the water pump.
The vehicle had a perfect Carfax report showing it was serviced every 5000 miles at a Lexus dealer.
A low mileage vehicle with an absolute perfect Carfax report showing serviced like clockwork at a Lexus dealership. And absolutely no reference to the patch welding on the axle housing mounts and fallen heat shields.
How could a Lexus dealer’s Service Shop not see multiple heat shields hanging loose from missing fasteners, large chunks of rust hanging loosely from the frame, a failed rear axle bracket... plus more... and not report it?
Has anybody ever heard of a Carfax report being doctored? Because this was extremely suspect after finding these problems.
Let’s see… why did I purchase this low mileage SUV?
1. I guess I should have not trusted the CarFax report?
2.) So you would purchase a vehicle that requires $1,300+ service soon after you purchase it?
Most used vehicles for sale when I was shopping we’re just shy of the timing belt replacement interval. Have you priced that lately? Service also recommends replacing the water pump.
The vehicle had a perfect Carfax report showing it was serviced every 5000 miles at a Lexus dealer.
A low mileage vehicle with an absolute perfect Carfax report showing serviced like clockwork at a Lexus dealership. And absolutely no reference to the patch welding on the axle housing mounts and fallen heat shields.
How could a Lexus dealer’s Service Shop not see multiple heat shields hanging loose from missing fasteners, large chunks of rust hanging loosely from the frame, a failed rear axle bracket... plus more... and not report it?
Has anybody ever heard of a Carfax report being doctored? Because this was extremely suspect after finding these problems.
Carfax only reports what is reported to it, so it misses a LOT. Never rely on Carfax. Dealers aren’t going to report shoddy welds or rust or anything they didn’t do to Carfax. The PO may have been diligent about servicing the vehicle, but must have left it outside and never cleaned the undercarriage.
Not to add insult to injury, but at 10 years old, you should replace that timing belt anyway, regardless of mileage.
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i have seen the pile of tundra frames behind a toyota dealership....they looked just like mine...bought my second one, an 09 with 30K on it six years after first owner...detailed and overly cared for....but the frame is still showing rust...i have put on about 8,000 a year since then...undercarriage gets flushed at car washes here in the winter....I suspect those tundra owners expect more life from their pickups and its easy to see the frame through those large wheel wellls...I suspect our frames are almost identical and have the same problems.....just that no one has spoken up..
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Let’s see… why did I purchase this low mileage SUV?
1. I guess I should have not trusted the CarFax report?
2.) So you would purchase a vehicle that requires $1,300+ service soon after you purchase it?
Most used vehicles for sale when I was shopping we’re just shy of the timing belt replacement interval. Have you priced that lately? Service also recommends replacing the water pump.
The vehicle had a perfect Carfax report showing it was serviced every 5000 miles at a Lexus dealer.
A low mileage vehicle with an absolute perfect Carfax report showing serviced like clockwork at a Lexus dealership. And absolutely no reference to the patch welding on the axle housing mounts and fallen heat shields.
How could a Lexus dealer’s Service Shop not see multiple heat shields hanging loose from missing fasteners, large chunks of rust hanging loosely from the frame, a failed rear axle bracket... plus more... and not report it?
Has anybody ever heard of a Carfax report being doctored? Because this was extremely suspect after finding these problems.
Let’s see… why did I purchase this low mileage SUV?
1. I guess I should have not trusted the CarFax report?
2.) So you would purchase a vehicle that requires $1,300+ service soon after you purchase it?
Most used vehicles for sale when I was shopping we’re just shy of the timing belt replacement interval. Have you priced that lately? Service also recommends replacing the water pump.
The vehicle had a perfect Carfax report showing it was serviced every 5000 miles at a Lexus dealer.
A low mileage vehicle with an absolute perfect Carfax report showing serviced like clockwork at a Lexus dealership. And absolutely no reference to the patch welding on the axle housing mounts and fallen heat shields.
How could a Lexus dealer’s Service Shop not see multiple heat shields hanging loose from missing fasteners, large chunks of rust hanging loosely from the frame, a failed rear axle bracket... plus more... and not report it?
Has anybody ever heard of a Carfax report being doctored? Because this was extremely suspect after finding these problems.
I bought a second GX with 103k miles last year from a dealer on the other coast. The Carfax told me that it spent most of its life in the Bay area so rust shouldn't be an issue. But I still paid to have an independent inspection done before I bought it. Having a trusted third party evaluate the vehicle made me feel a whole lot more comfortable buying it from 3,000 miles away.
One of the first questions that I ask before looking at a used vehicle of any type is what are the costly parts/systems that are likely to fail or will wear out around the 100k mark. Already owning a GX, I knew about the timing belt and water pump interval. I negotiated to have those installed for the cost of the parts as part of the sale. It was a win/win. The dealer got the sale and I got the peace of mind that I wouldn't have to worry about these particular components for another 90k miles.
I know, this totally doesn't help you in your situation. I'm not sure what recourse you have (maybe depends on the state?).
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