rahre

I almost died today in a 1” snow. With only a handful per year, it is hard to buy a dedicated snow setup. Nonetheless, the Michelin PSS has less snow traction than I could have imagined. My old ISF had Conti Extreme Contacts that actually gripped well for a UHP summer tire. I said I would NEVER do all seasons on this GSF, but I got spooked and it’s my daily driver. I’m interested in others experiences if they have gone the all season route (Michelin Spoert AS3+, others?). Thank you

lexicon72

Obviously winter tires are the best option. I ran those for many years on my IS300. But for the past 3 or 4 years I have done both Pilot AS3 and Conti DWS06 both in snow, in summer and on the track (lol) for my IS300 and my ISF.

AS3 have better dry traction than the DWS06 but the DWS06 have better wet and snow traction. The problem with the AS3 is that they got significantly worse (dangerously IMO) after about 7500 miles. I put about 35,000 miles on them between both cars. That's why I switched to the DWS06 on my F. Actually drove around in an inch of snow today without any issues. Have had them for about 20,000 miles.

Just one person's opinion, but I'll stick with the DWS06 until replacement time and hopefully will go back to a winter tire setup.

lobuxracer

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I put A/S3+ on the GS F the day after Christmas so I can't comment on how wear affects them, but with the unusually cold winter we've been having in Atlanta, PSS were not going to cut it. We've had a few days where it was cold enough to cause damage just sitting there, not even driving, and the next couple of days promises to bring more of the same.

The wife ran A/S2s and A/S3s on her Scion when she drove all over for work (25k miles a year) and the only issues we had were chunking with the A/S2s and Michelin replaced those tires under warranty.

So far with the GS F, the dry traction is definitely less, but they are very predictable and have no surprises even when the temperature is in the teens. I'll get a better feeling for light snow tomorrow and Wednesday. PSS are pretty hairball in the snow.

Autobacs

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Never had to but I would go with these if I had to go all-season tires: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...F&autoModClar=

lobuxracer

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TireRack spots them in the #2 slot right behind the Michelins. Why would you choose these over Brand M?

Autobacs

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I've read a few reviews from car owners who live in heavy snow climates whohave had both tires and they rate the BF Goodrich marginally better than the Michelins in the snow. If I will switch to all seasons (from summer) tires, the most important criteria for me would be snow/ice traction.

rahre

I ended up putting on Michelin AS3+. SO MUCH BETTER in that I can actually stop the car now! The Michelin PSSs would all lock on braking and had so little friction on the snow that the ABS would not engage (as far as the car knew, I was not braking). They are a firm ride, quiet, and they seem to hold well in aggressive cornering. My local tire store said they would swap out to the Michelin PSSs each Spring/Fall free of charge.

mr2dave

Thanks for the post and I found out too in GA last week that the GSF back end with the PSS' does not stick in a curve with a little snow. Lucky only my pride was bruised and a little kicked up dirt.