Lexus Enform in canada
11-19-17, 07:55 AM
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Lexus Enform in canada
i was talking to my dealer yesterday and apparently the new NX comes with the Lexus Enform but not the RX. He couldn't explain why that is neither could he confirm that we might be able to get an upgrade on the RX at a later date. I know most RXs around the world have this option except for Canada where they're built. Can someone chime in on this and explain why that is? Is of Canada's communication laws or we just get screwed in Canada as usual?
11-19-17, 08:04 AM
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I heard the same thing as well. I don't think it has to do with Canadian communications laws. It is just a decision by Lexus/Toyota company. For example, Honda and Acura products in Canada seems to be bit more forward than even their US models (while Toyota always bit more forward in US than in Canada). For example, Honda Civic 2017 models in Canada has adaptive CVT with steering wheel mounted gear pedals which is not available in the same trim level in 2017 US version of Honda Civic.
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11-19-17, 08:08 AM
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I would like to know what they based their decision on. It just doesn't seem fair that the remote start for example that's part of the Lexus app is not available on mobile here in Canada. They want $1200 for a remote starter where it'd be available on the app.
11-20-17, 08:53 AM
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What really disappointed me is the GPS traffic report is not available for Canada, so I still have to use my phone's google map a lot to see if I need to take alternate routes. A $30K Honda CRV has live traffic report on the GPS but a $70K Lexus RX doesn't , extremely disappointed indeed. Furthermore, the US RX have weather report and Canada doesn't.
Both of these are "free" service, no monthly fee, just not available in Canada.
11-20-17, 12:57 PM
#5
The reason why Lexus Canada is not releasing Enform on the 2018 RX is because they are waiting for the mid-model change in 2019. It would be expensive and a huge hassle to introduce Enform on all 2018 Lexus models. There is a lot more that goes on behind the scenes when making a change like this to a vehicle. This is why they take a few models every year and over the next 3-4 years, they slowly introduce it to the rest of the lineup (big changes like this are typically only added in during a mid-model/major model change). For 2018, the NX, LC, LS, and RC are getting Enform. Next year it will be ES and RX (and possibly other models too). Hopefully by 2020, all Canadian Lexus vehicles will have Enform.
11-20-17, 03:59 PM
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The reason why Lexus Canada is not releasing Enform on the 2018 RX is because they are waiting for the mid-model change in 2019. It would be expensive and a huge hassle to introduce Enform on all 2018 Lexus models. There is a lot more that goes on behind the scenes when making a change like this to a vehicle. This is why they take a few models every year and over the next 3-4 years, they slowly introduce it to the rest of the lineup (big changes like this are typically only added in during a mid-model/major model change). For 2018, the NX, LC, LS, and RC are getting Enform. Next year it will be ES and RX (and possibly other models too). Hopefully by 2020, all Canadian Lexus vehicles will have Enform.
cheers..
11-20-17, 05:18 PM
#7
The reason why Lexus Canada is not releasing Enform on the 2018 RX is because they are waiting for the mid-model change in 2019. It would be expensive and a huge hassle to introduce Enform on all 2018 Lexus models. There is a lot more that goes on behind the scenes when making a change like this to a vehicle. This is why they take a few models every year and over the next 3-4 years, they slowly introduce it to the rest of the lineup (big changes like this are typically only added in during a mid-model/major model change). For 2018, the NX, LC, LS, and RC are getting Enform. Next year it will be ES and RX (and possibly other models too). Hopefully by 2020, all Canadian Lexus vehicles will have Enform.
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11-20-17, 05:21 PM
#8
Enform is not available in Canada, however it's not free either, it's a monthly service app.
What really disappointed me is the GPS traffic report is not available for Canada, so I still have to use my phone's google map a lot to see if I need to take alternate routes. A $30K Honda CRV has live traffic report on the GPS but a $70K Lexus RX doesn't , extremely disappointed indeed. Furthermore, the US RX have weather report and Canada doesn't.
Both of these are "free" service, no monthly fee, just not available in Canada.
What really disappointed me is the GPS traffic report is not available for Canada, so I still have to use my phone's google map a lot to see if I need to take alternate routes. A $30K Honda CRV has live traffic report on the GPS but a $70K Lexus RX doesn't , extremely disappointed indeed. Furthermore, the US RX have weather report and Canada doesn't.
Both of these are "free" service, no monthly fee, just not available in Canada.
11-20-17, 07:50 PM
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The NX just went through a mid-model change that included a change to the central display screen (a hardware change); there were likely other electronics hardware and software changes. These changes allowed for the release of Enform.
My educated guess is that those electronics changes are necessary for Enform but they have not yet been made for the Canadian market RX. The easiest (and likely cheapest) time to make the necessary electronics changes is during a planned mid-model change, when other changes are planned and made.
Despite the fact that the Canadian model RX looks the same as the American model RX, and despite the fact that they are assembled in the same plant, they may be different under the skin, different enough that it may not be that simple to make the electronics changes necessary to allow for the release of Enform.
My educated guess is that those electronics changes are necessary for Enform but they have not yet been made for the Canadian market RX. The easiest (and likely cheapest) time to make the necessary electronics changes is during a planned mid-model change, when other changes are planned and made.
Despite the fact that the Canadian model RX looks the same as the American model RX, and despite the fact that they are assembled in the same plant, they may be different under the skin, different enough that it may not be that simple to make the electronics changes necessary to allow for the release of Enform.
11-21-17, 07:38 PM
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Not only that, my brother's 2017 Honda Civic maps can be updated at home for free for the first five years. Plus the heated seats are actually heated! Unlike my new Lexus 2017 RX heated seats which feels nothing close to heated when it is on full setting. May be mine is broken? But I read here the seats don't get warm at all in 2017 RX. It sucks for Canadian Winter.
cheers.
11-21-17, 07:40 PM
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The NX just went through a mid-model change that included a change to the central display screen (a hardware change); there were likely other electronics hardware and software changes. These changes allowed for the release of Enform.
My educated guess is that those electronics changes are necessary for Enform but they have not yet been made for the Canadian market RX. The easiest (and likely cheapest) time to make the necessary electronics changes is during a planned mid-model change, when other changes are planned and made.
Despite the fact that the Canadian model RX looks the same as the American model RX, and despite the fact that they are assembled in the same plant, they may be different under the skin, different enough that it may not be that simple to make the electronics changes necessary to allow for the release of Enform.
My educated guess is that those electronics changes are necessary for Enform but they have not yet been made for the Canadian market RX. The easiest (and likely cheapest) time to make the necessary electronics changes is during a planned mid-model change, when other changes are planned and made.
Despite the fact that the Canadian model RX looks the same as the American model RX, and despite the fact that they are assembled in the same plant, they may be different under the skin, different enough that it may not be that simple to make the electronics changes necessary to allow for the release of Enform.
It still diesnt asnswer the question why?. Why don't we get that in Canada when the rest of the world gets it?
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