warminwisc

Would not buy it for the power, mine has plenty, not for the handling no real difference. The seats are nice interior way cool but no wow factor to pony up 40 g's for an 013 with 52k miles. JMO.

Gronemus

Which one did you drive? Was it at a dealership or private party?

And yes, today it is hot in Wisconsin...

warminwisc

Non "L" 19 inch wheels. Hung out at the outdoor beer garden on the Fox River. Perfect day

2KHarrier

Was like a mid July day today. Between the fantastic weather and the Brewers beating up on the Cubs, I can wait for cold weather for ever....

Johnhav430

I'm skipping that generation (feel it's a lost generation of LS) and going for the LS500--I will definitely drive it when it is for sale shortly, but my plan is more long range, see how much a 2019 costs in 2022, and then see how things are going.

"If" it's a car as reliable as the LS430, I'm willing to spend around $50k, and I figure the list would be $85-$90k. Don't know how long it takes to depreciate to $50k, likely more than 3 yrs....

Telling you though, this 3rd gen LS has virtually made me a Lexus fanboy.....not yet, but almost....(I find almost all 2017 Lexus products to be overpriced and boring, but maybe they're coming back)