2019... the year of the redesign?
09-23-17, 12:50 PM
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2019... the year of the redesign?
http://www.motortrend.com/news/lots-...xt-four-years/
Japan’s Toyota on a tear
Toyota will replace 85 percent of its lineup over the next four years, including all the biggies. The 2019 model-year launches include the RAV4, 4Runner, Avalon, and Yaris as well as Lexus GX, ES, and CT hatchback. For 2020, look for a new Highlander, Land Cruiser, Sienna minivan, and Corolla as well as Lexus LX, GS, IS, and NX midsize crossover. Then for 2021 is a new Tundra and Sequoia, as well as the Prius and Lexus RC coupe.
Japan’s Toyota on a tear
Toyota will replace 85 percent of its lineup over the next four years, including all the biggies. The 2019 model-year launches include the RAV4, 4Runner, Avalon, and Yaris as well as Lexus GX, ES, and CT hatchback. For 2020, look for a new Highlander, Land Cruiser, Sienna minivan, and Corolla as well as Lexus LX, GS, IS, and NX midsize crossover. Then for 2021 is a new Tundra and Sequoia, as well as the Prius and Lexus RC coupe.
09-23-17, 02:52 PM
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If so, that works for me as a long time owner and buy 2-3 year old cars. If it still has the swing gate I will deal with it for the reliability. More power please....
Oh, and update the dashboard along with no more silver paint that scratches easily.
Oh, and update the dashboard along with no more silver paint that scratches easily.
09-23-17, 09:09 PM
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To the naysayers on this and the LX Forum twin turbos are coming face it. Look for a the same tt in the new LS to show up in the gx. Lx will likely get the v8 version of current lc gsf and rcf with turbos.
09-24-17, 08:08 AM
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One of the main reasons we went with the GX that it is a conventional SUV not one those light city SUVs most manufactures lately. We checked many models and the only ones we likes was the GX and the Infinity QX80. If we bough the QX I would have had to remove the shelves from our garage to make it fit so we went with the GX. It is a keeper, we'll drive it until it falls apart.
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09-24-17, 11:48 AM
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Just my opinion... :-)
I was also attracted to the old school motor and solid BOF of the GX..... surely a redesign with lots of tech, power and built on a unibody chassis will probably sell well. However..not a vehicle I am interested in but many others will buy. Granted last turbo car I had was from the mid 80's with lots of problems. I will say I have never seen a manufacturer add a turbo to improve engine longevity or reliability of a motor. Turbo replacements will probably offer up an uptick in work for repair shops and will fill the waning need for timing belt replacements (except for Honda V6's).
I was also attracted to the old school motor and solid BOF of the GX..... surely a redesign with lots of tech, power and built on a unibody chassis will probably sell well. However..not a vehicle I am interested in but many others will buy. Granted last turbo car I had was from the mid 80's with lots of problems. I will say I have never seen a manufacturer add a turbo to improve engine longevity or reliability of a motor. Turbo replacements will probably offer up an uptick in work for repair shops and will fill the waning need for timing belt replacements (except for Honda V6's).
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09-24-17, 12:11 PM
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I haven't looked into this so I ask. What Lexus model has a turbo or twin turbo? Are they reliable? I have no problem with Turbos and would welcome one on my V8. A V6 twin turbo may become quite costly with 100k miles on it.
09-24-17, 12:19 PM
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09-24-17, 01:59 PM
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I’m an active member at GS section and there are many rumors that Lexus is discontinuing GS specially cas the number of vehicles sold is too low and the new LS having a V6 turbo engine.
09-25-17, 09:52 AM
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Actually quite a few Lexus (Lexi?) are offered with turbos....NX, IS, GS, LS.
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09-25-17, 09:58 AM
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As you know I still frequent that forum also. One of those reasons makes sense and the other does not. I have read that Lexus says they are going to offer more SUVs and less cars, and that was a direct quote from a Lexus Executive. I would not be surprised if they drop it for the reason that does make sense.
09-25-17, 10:25 AM
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I'm guessing the next GX will unfortunately just be a bigger RX type vehicle. A car based CUV. That's what the soccer moms want.
The new upcoming federal CAFE rules unless changed are basically going to make old school SUVs like our current GX a thing of the past.
The new upcoming federal CAFE rules unless changed are basically going to make old school SUVs like our current GX a thing of the past.
09-25-17, 10:31 AM
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Just my opinion... :-)
I was also attracted to the old school motor and solid BOF of the GX..... surely a redesign with lots of tech, power and built on a unibody chassis will probably sell well. However..not a vehicle I am interested in but many others will buy. Granted last turbo car I had was from the mid 80's with lots of problems. I will say I have never seen a manufacturer add a turbo to improve engine longevity or reliability of a motor. Turbo replacements will probably offer up an uptick in work for repair shops and will fill the waning need for timing belt replacements (except for Honda V6's).
I was also attracted to the old school motor and solid BOF of the GX..... surely a redesign with lots of tech, power and built on a unibody chassis will probably sell well. However..not a vehicle I am interested in but many others will buy. Granted last turbo car I had was from the mid 80's with lots of problems. I will say I have never seen a manufacturer add a turbo to improve engine longevity or reliability of a motor. Turbo replacements will probably offer up an uptick in work for repair shops and will fill the waning need for timing belt replacements (except for Honda V6's).
I would agree on all counts.
And the fuel economy gains from turbo motors are pretty menial compared to a larger displacement engine, especially in real world driving. Ford owners have complained about this with the EcoBoost motor in their F-150s. They show a great EPA number, but the actual results are just like 1-2 mpg better for a vastly more complex motor. They've already had to do a recall on it. Not worth the driving dynamics or the maintenance down the line.
I will say the Mercedes GL has a really nice twin turbo motor, but I would not want to own that that thing outside of a factory warranty.
