o upgrade, or not to upgrade. That is the question.
03-29-17, 11:20 PM
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o upgrade, or not to upgrade. That is the question.
So, i am just gagging to drop a LSD into my 09 ISF, its the one thing i really want to have in this car.. I have done a few bits and bobs to it over time and am THOROUGHLY enjoying it. So much so that i am contemplating trading in the 09 for a 13, same colour paint and interior. The whole upgrade could potentially be done with the same loan, albeit on a new loan period. So basically same payments but refresh the loan.
My 09 has the following upgrades / mods:
Let me know your opinions, because the other side is a drop a diff into mine for $3k and be done with it. I have maintained my car very well and its trouble free, around 90kms.
My 09 has the following upgrades / mods:
- RR Racing USRS bushes (amazing steering feel)
- RR Racing Air Oil Separator
- HPS intake tube black silicone
- Bilstein B6 shocks (huge difference in comfort, though not as good as 12-13 onward cars)
- X-Force cat back
- Widened primaries after cats on factory headers
- Autowerks ECU tune
- 2011 Steering ECU upgrade (better mod than you would think, big difference)
- Credit card key bought from the states
- Better suspension
- LSD Diff
- Bluetooth streaming for music
Let me know your opinions, because the other side is a drop a diff into mine for $3k and be done with it. I have maintained my car very well and its trouble free, around 90kms.
03-29-17, 11:32 PM
#2
Hey.
If it was my choice, I'd go with the trade-in option and swap out your mods.
May as well get a fresher car with all the toys as a base, that way you can continue adding things to a younger car that will have less mileage.
If you had done a load of body, interior, performance mods to your 09, I'd say just get the diff changed, but sounds like your mods can probably be swapped out in a day, so not an issue.
It's ultimately your choice, but that's my opinion for what it's worth.
Best of luck whatever you decide mate.
If it was my choice, I'd go with the trade-in option and swap out your mods.
May as well get a fresher car with all the toys as a base, that way you can continue adding things to a younger car that will have less mileage.
If you had done a load of body, interior, performance mods to your 09, I'd say just get the diff changed, but sounds like your mods can probably be swapped out in a day, so not an issue.
It's ultimately your choice, but that's my opinion for what it's worth.
Best of luck whatever you decide mate.
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03-30-17, 01:19 AM
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I would upgrade to the newer one and take the time to swap your mods over, not like its supercharged or has headers on it. I considered upgrading to a 12+ with the updated suspension when I traded mine as well, I might be the minority but I like the peace of mind that comes with a newer car, well worth the extra spent.
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03-30-17, 02:56 AM
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Well in the price bracket ill be looking at, it will either be a 12 with 60-80k or a 13 with 100+k. So it wont really be about getting a lower mileage / km car, its more about the updated features / benefits of the newer car.
My mind is telling me nooo.. BUT MY BODY, MY BOODDDDY'S TELLING ME YEEEAAAASSSS!!! Haha, I do like the idea of having a fresher car, but there is zero things wrong with my current ISF.
It speaks volumes for these cars that i would consider getting out of one car into almost exactly the same car when you look at the alternatives in the market. I can buy some unreal cars for the money, but the PACKAGE that is ISF, unbeatable.
My mind is telling me nooo.. BUT MY BODY, MY BOODDDDY'S TELLING ME YEEEAAAASSSS!!! Haha, I do like the idea of having a fresher car, but there is zero things wrong with my current ISF.
It speaks volumes for these cars that i would consider getting out of one car into almost exactly the same car when you look at the alternatives in the market. I can buy some unreal cars for the money, but the PACKAGE that is ISF, unbeatable.
03-30-17, 03:59 AM
#5
Hey mate, US forums more active than the Oz ones lol. Id definitely wait it out. Ive had mine 08 for 1.5 yrs now and same yr/kms etc is about 9k less than what i paid for it. I think in the US price gap not as bad but we get stung in Oz. I mean a 08 low to average kms is about 40k but a 12-13 with low kms is about 60k. You could do plenty with 20k. That would easily cover a LSD, some body mods, great suspension and this thread might address your bluetooth issues https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...it-how-to.html
After the initial excitement of a newer car, i think you'll be behind the wheel, having as much fun as your current one but not 20k more fun. Now upgrading to a GSF etc (i know they are alot more) but that would feel like a better upgrade. There is so much differences to see where your money is going but not going up a few yrs.
Wait it out if you can, the price gap is getting smaller. i.e. When i got my 08 it was about 50k. A 2013 at the time was still going for just over 90k and 2012 mid 80's so a big difference. With so many other models including the Lexus range coming into play, i wouldnt be at all surprised if the price difference to upgrade 4-5 yrs newer would be less than 20k difference if you dont kill yours with km's (turning off potential buyers).
Like you said, you got a zero fault ISF at the moment, enjoy it. Just dont think a 2012-13 will be that fresh as its still 4 yrs old. Id love a GSF but ill just have to wait for the depreciation to kick in for someone else lol. Then again, same yr car as mine, id love a R35 but thats another story.
After the initial excitement of a newer car, i think you'll be behind the wheel, having as much fun as your current one but not 20k more fun. Now upgrading to a GSF etc (i know they are alot more) but that would feel like a better upgrade. There is so much differences to see where your money is going but not going up a few yrs.
Wait it out if you can, the price gap is getting smaller. i.e. When i got my 08 it was about 50k. A 2013 at the time was still going for just over 90k and 2012 mid 80's so a big difference. With so many other models including the Lexus range coming into play, i wouldnt be at all surprised if the price difference to upgrade 4-5 yrs newer would be less than 20k difference if you dont kill yours with km's (turning off potential buyers).
Like you said, you got a zero fault ISF at the moment, enjoy it. Just dont think a 2012-13 will be that fresh as its still 4 yrs old. Id love a GSF but ill just have to wait for the depreciation to kick in for someone else lol. Then again, same yr car as mine, id love a R35 but thats another story.
03-30-17, 10:57 AM
#7
If you're having fun with the car & it has been good to you, I say keep it and upgrade. You'll save money. Also, trading in something that works for what's basically its equal always bodes bad luck in my book.
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03-30-17, 11:49 AM
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Don't do it. Thats a big drop in $$$ just so you can have a ISF with a stock LSD. Is bluetooth streaming and a STOCK suspension worth trading up? The +11 ISF stock suspension is better, but seriously, were you actually planning to keep the suspension stock?
As some have stated, the stock LSD isn't even that great. Sure, great over an 08-09 non-LSD ISF. But as many on here who have gone aftermarket LSD, it is night and day difference comparing stock LSD vs aftermarket LSD.
That said, I would rather drop that extra cash in to an aftermarket LSD and coilovers. Youll have a better ISF performance wise, rather than getting a newer ISF with STOCK LSD and STOCK suspension. As well as save the hassle of swapping parts and selling your other ISF.
As some have stated, the stock LSD isn't even that great. Sure, great over an 08-09 non-LSD ISF. But as many on here who have gone aftermarket LSD, it is night and day difference comparing stock LSD vs aftermarket LSD.
That said, I would rather drop that extra cash in to an aftermarket LSD and coilovers. Youll have a better ISF performance wise, rather than getting a newer ISF with STOCK LSD and STOCK suspension. As well as save the hassle of swapping parts and selling your other ISF.
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03-30-17, 11:55 AM
#9
Don't do it. Thats a big drop in $$$ just so you can have a ISF with a stock LSD. Is bluetooth streaming and a STOCK suspension worth trading up? The +11 ISF stock suspension is better, but seriously, were you actually planning to keep the suspension stock?
As some have stated, the stock LSD isn't even that great. Sure, great over an 08-09 non-LSD ISF. But as many on here who have gone aftermarket LSD, it is night and day difference comparing stock LSD vs aftermarket LSD.
That said, I would rather drop that extra cash in to an aftermarket LSD and coilovers. Youll have a better ISF performance wise, rather than getting a newer ISF with STOCK LSD and STOCK suspension. As well as save the hassle of swapping parts and selling your other ISF.
As some have stated, the stock LSD isn't even that great. Sure, great over an 08-09 non-LSD ISF. But as many on here who have gone aftermarket LSD, it is night and day difference comparing stock LSD vs aftermarket LSD.
That said, I would rather drop that extra cash in to an aftermarket LSD and coilovers. Youll have a better ISF performance wise, rather than getting a newer ISF with STOCK LSD and STOCK suspension. As well as save the hassle of swapping parts and selling your other ISF.
03-30-17, 01:56 PM
#10
Surprised to hear about the B6 Bilsteins. You don't hear very many people upgrading just the struts. Hell there's even damper adjustable Tokico Red's available and don't think a single person on here has them. Curious how much better they are over stock with swift lowering springs that are so common.
03-30-17, 02:37 PM
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Hey mate, US forums more active than the Oz ones lol. Id definitely wait it out. Ive had mine 08 for 1.5 yrs now and same yr/kms etc is about 9k less than what i paid for it. I think in the US price gap not as bad but we get stung in Oz. I mean a 08 low to average kms is about 40k but a 12-13 with low kms is about 60k. You could do plenty with 20k. That would easily cover a LSD, some body mods, great suspension and this thread might address your bluetooth issues https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...it-how-to.html
After the initial excitement of a newer car, i think you'll be behind the wheel, having as much fun as your current one but not 20k more fun. Now upgrading to a GSF etc (i know they are alot more) but that would feel like a better upgrade. There is so much differences to see where your money is going but not going up a few yrs.
Wait it out if you can, the price gap is getting smaller. i.e. When i got my 08 it was about 50k. A 2013 at the time was still going for just over 90k and 2012 mid 80's so a big difference. With so many other models including the Lexus range coming into play, i wouldnt be at all surprised if the price difference to upgrade 4-5 yrs newer would be less than 20k difference if you dont kill yours with km's (turning off potential buyers).
Like you said, you got a zero fault ISF at the moment, enjoy it. Just dont think a 2012-13 will be that fresh as its still 4 yrs old. Id love a GSF but ill just have to wait for the depreciation to kick in for someone else lol. Then again, same yr car as mine, id love a R35 but thats another story.
After the initial excitement of a newer car, i think you'll be behind the wheel, having as much fun as your current one but not 20k more fun. Now upgrading to a GSF etc (i know they are alot more) but that would feel like a better upgrade. There is so much differences to see where your money is going but not going up a few yrs.
Wait it out if you can, the price gap is getting smaller. i.e. When i got my 08 it was about 50k. A 2013 at the time was still going for just over 90k and 2012 mid 80's so a big difference. With so many other models including the Lexus range coming into play, i wouldnt be at all surprised if the price difference to upgrade 4-5 yrs newer would be less than 20k difference if you dont kill yours with km's (turning off potential buyers).
Like you said, you got a zero fault ISF at the moment, enjoy it. Just dont think a 2012-13 will be that fresh as its still 4 yrs old. Id love a GSF but ill just have to wait for the depreciation to kick in for someone else lol. Then again, same yr car as mine, id love a R35 but thats another story.
Don't do it. Thats a big drop in $$$ just so you can have a ISF with a stock LSD. Is bluetooth streaming and a STOCK suspension worth trading up? The +11 ISF stock suspension is better, but seriously, were you actually planning to keep the suspension stock?
As some have stated, the stock LSD isn't even that great. Sure, great over an 08-09 non-LSD ISF. But as many on here who have gone aftermarket LSD, it is night and day difference comparing stock LSD vs aftermarket LSD.
That said, I would rather drop that extra cash in to an aftermarket LSD and coilovers. Youll have a better ISF performance wise, rather than getting a newer ISF with STOCK LSD and STOCK suspension. As well as save the hassle of swapping parts and selling your other ISF.
As some have stated, the stock LSD isn't even that great. Sure, great over an 08-09 non-LSD ISF. But as many on here who have gone aftermarket LSD, it is night and day difference comparing stock LSD vs aftermarket LSD.
That said, I would rather drop that extra cash in to an aftermarket LSD and coilovers. Youll have a better ISF performance wise, rather than getting a newer ISF with STOCK LSD and STOCK suspension. As well as save the hassle of swapping parts and selling your other ISF.
Surprised to hear about the B6 Bilsteins. You don't hear very many people upgrading just the struts. Hell there's even damper adjustable Tokico Red's available and don't think a single person on here has them. Curious how much better they are over stock with swift lowering springs that are so common.
03-30-17, 02:38 PM
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Surprised to hear about the B6 Bilsteins. You don't hear very many people upgrading just the struts. Hell there's even damper adjustable Tokico Red's available and don't think a single person on here has them. Curious how much better they are over stock with swift lowering springs that are so common.
03-30-17, 03:48 PM
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