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Old 07-20-17, 12:02 PM
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Wonder if they stick to numbers that once existed, like 560 SEL SEC etc., or would they be like BMW and have a 565, 570, etc.....I never gave it any thought that the V8 in the S550 was a 4.7 liter, and is now 4....because the number "seemed" to be in line, ie. not 745, but 750, not 755, but 760, etc. I know it's marketing, but they must have discussed it at the mfg....
There is never a S550 outside N.America, the rest of the world always call them S500.
​​​​​​​It was a couple generations ago they upgraded their top non-AMG V8 from 5 litre to 5.5 litre that they change it to S550 for horsepower loving N.Americans (particularly USA who loves big numbers, but decided to stick with what they then consider more traditional S500 for the rest of the world even for the 5.5 litre V8.

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Old 07-20-17, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Gojirra99
There is never a S550 outside N.America, the rest of the world always call them S500.
​​​​​​​It was a couple generations ago they upgraded their top non-AMG V8 from 5 litre to 5.5 litre that they change it to S550 for horsepower loving N.Americans (particularly USA who loves big numbers, but decided to stick with the then more traditional S500 for the rest of the world even for the 5.5 litre V8.
I betcha that one I saw on cars.com that had a S500 badge, they accidentally put it on due to body work but somehow got the wrong badge (clean carfax lol).....

With this badging thing, I think Infiniti is maybe the worst, all of a sudden 60 means 3.7 liters...but 60 is much better than 37 so why not? lol I think 60 even can mean 2 liter 4 cyl as well.
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Originally Posted by Johnhav430
With this badging thing, I think Infiniti is maybe the worst, all of a sudden 60 means 3.7 liters...but 60 is much better than 37 so why not? lol I think 60 even can mean 2 liter 4 cyl as well.
Infiniti is using the 3.0L VR30DDTT now in the Q50 and Q60.
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Old 07-20-17, 05:41 PM
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The new S class has no V6 engines in Europe, its the new inline 6 in the S450 and the diesels.The S 500 is also a inline 6 but with 435 hp. The 560 is a V8 and 469 hp.
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I think in China, they are using the S560 and S680
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What I like:
Steering wheel: it's gorgeous and sporty.

What I don't like:
The unibrow LED DRLs are gone. I thought the simplistic design was both elegant and distinctive to the S-class.
I'm sure C-class owners also appreciated the design because it was shared with both cars.

Oh well, change happens.
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Originally Posted by RXSF
I think in China, they are using the S560 and S680
They could have done even better naming it S668, or S688
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Old 07-20-17, 09:22 PM
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mb really did a great job on this generation of s class. they totally leave the 7 series behind imho, not to mention lexus with effectively the same car from 10 years ago.
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Old 07-20-17, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Gojirra99
I almost never see a C class sedan without the sports grille ...
Why would anyone choose the luxury grill? When the slats close to improve aerodynamics, its hideous!
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Why would anyone choose the luxury grill? When the slats close to improve aerodynamics, its hideous!
I agree, but I like the traditional hood ornament and Grill.

I would paint the slats black.
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As usual, MB is setting the bar for the luxury sedan. Absolutely beautiful car inside and out. I was behind a brand new S550 coupe a couple of days ago...talk about a bold but beautiful design. Wow.
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Originally Posted by jrmckinley
As usual, MB is setting the bar for the luxury sedan. Absolutely beautiful car inside and out. I was behind a brand new S550 coupe a couple of days ago...talk about a bold but beautiful design. Wow.
S63 coupe has an even better behind, and looking forward to the facelift/upgrade for the S class coupe/convertible ...
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Originally Posted by Gojirra99
S63 coupe has an even better behind, and looking forward to the facelift/upgrade for the S class coupe/convertible ...
I'd love to see the S63 coupe in person- the rear of that 550 coupe was amazing.
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Originally Posted by Gojirra99
S63 coupe has an even better behind, and looking forward to the facelift/upgrade for the S class coupe/convertible ...
i was following a s63 coupe the other day, gosh....
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I dislike the trim treatment directly next to either side of the license plate on the S coupe. Looking at pictures, some dont have it, but some do, and I have yet to figure out why. Might just be a US thing for our license plate? Bottom picture looks much better.


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