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I am just wondering if the 2013 91.9 is overall cargo capacity inclusive of front seats and the floor in front of the second row. It says 91.9 "max". The 64.7 didn't change from brochure to brochure. The 91.9 simply disappeared 2014+. Just a theory.
Even these latter two numbers show another off number of 58.3 cu ft. I might email Lexus support to see if they clear up the confusion here. Storage space with all seats down has to easily be the 91.9 cu ft as it seems to have more space in back than my 96 Ford Explorer which had 81 cu ft.
Even these latter two numbers show another off number of 58.3 cu ft. I might email Lexus support to see if they clear up the confusion here. Storage space with all seats down has to easily be the 91.9 cu ft as it seems to have more space in back than my 96 Ford Explorer which had 81 cu ft.
Yeah, you are right. It isn't. So maybe they changed because other manufacturers were not counting front room? There are a few 2013 articles that state 91.9 with both rows folded and calling it low for the class. I guess I could do it the old fashioned way with a tape measure and figure it out the best I can. I think this MT one gives a good idea ["Cargo (behind the third/middle/front seats) is less than expected at 11.6/46.7/91.9 cubic feet"] and agrees with what you have above. It looks as though Lexus decided to provide the behind second row instead of having second row folded down. Small interior tweaks could also have individually small but overall larger impacts on quotes of interior volume.
I just came across this GX thread and thought I might offer what I have learned as I look at other vehicles to replace my 2013 RX 450h. Somewhere along the line Lexus started to change the way they measured cargo volume. They now measure the volume below the retractable cover. This makes the 2017 RX numbers considerably smaller than my 2013 (80.3 vs. 55.9) when in fact the 2017 is slightly larger!!
Also, I have not looked at the GX online specs, but many other download brochures will have a list of footnotes. Total cargo volume behind the 1st row of seats will generally have a footnote that will say that it includes the floor space between the 1st and 2nd rows. This would be a problem with the 450h since that is where the vents for the hybrid batteries are located and Lexus tells you not to block those vents.
Hope this helps in some small way.
The GX is one of the vehicles I am considering, but I am afraid I could purchase one only to have the line eliminated or redesigned. It has been around for quite a while with no refresh.
That is interesting about the cargo cover & specs. My used GX didn't have it back there nor interested in buying one either.
I took mine out because it just got in the way. My assumption is that Toyota/Lexus is very conservative and doesn't want to include the area above the cargo cover because they don't think you should load cargo to that level for sight/safety reasons. However, when we travel, my wife always overpacks and we do make use of that space!!!
I've used one of these pet barrier walls to restrain cargo in other vehicles. Obviously it has it's limits but has restrained cargo well in panic stops in the past.
I just bought a new '17 GX 460 Premium last week and spent a lot of time figuring out why the cargo area volume declined from '12 or '13 to the newer models. Cargo capacity was really important since I'm primarily using this as my work vehicle and most of the other vehicles I was considering had considerably more cargo volume.
I'm fairly certain the reduction in cargo volume is entirely due to the non-removable third row seats. The newer models have the gold flat seats and the cargo volume assumes the the second and third row seats are folded. The older versions calculated max cargo volume with the third row removed...
Coming from a Range Rover Evoque, I'm loving the increased cargo volume but it would be nice to pickup that extra 30 cubic feet if the rear seats were removable. I ended up getting a great deal on my new Lexus that it was just too hard to justify the other competitors and Lexus makes buying cars so much easier than the German compitetors. Three trim levels with minor options to choose from in each trim is far superior to the every option is available for a price. Lexus was like buying a computer from Apple while MB and BMW was like trying to order a laptop from Lenovo (you can have any option for a price).
Actually the rear the seats are basically the same for '10-'17. All were powered '10-'13 and then in '14 power rear 3rd went to Luxury trim. This trim line wasn't available in '10'-'13. You may be thinking about the '03-'09 GX 470 which had removable rear seats.
I think from other posts the loss is due to not measuring cargo space to the roof and probably somewhere on lower areas of windows. The space is effectively the same give or take a few square feet with the new bucket seat option ('17 Luxury) on all model years of 460.
We have a 2006 GX 470 with KDSS and sports package as my wife’s daily driver. She abdolutely loves it! It drives like new still today with about 155k miles but I am concerned of it’s age. So, we are in the market for another GX and test drove a 2019 luxury model. She is concerned about the loss of cargo area versus 470. Is there much of a difference in functionality. Can folks who have owned both, comment.
Does the 2019 come with car play?
Any other improvement/loss that is noticeable over 470?
We have a 2006 GX 470 with KDSS and sports package as my wife’s daily driver. She abdolutely loves it! It drives like new still today with about 155k miles but I am concerned of it’s age. So, we are in the market for another GX and test drove a 2019 luxury model. She is concerned about the loss of cargo area versus 470. Is there much of a difference in functionality. Can folks who have owned both, comment.
Just traded in a pristine 2008 GX470 with 136,000 miles for a 2019 GX460. The 460 cargo area does have less height than the 470 given the hideaway 3rd row seats ... but then the 470 has the 3rd row seats hanging on either side consuming space ... so for me, the 460 is more open and accessible with slightly less height which is well worth the trade-off.
Buy the 460 sooner than later if you want a real truck based SUV with a V8 engine ... otherwise live with the GX redesign in the works that will invariably follow the uni-body trend propelled by a V6 something. I will go back to a loaded 4-Runner before driving a "cute-ute" pretending to be a real SUV.
