I find the new Lexus models are far more interesting than the old models. Everything from the 1990s were always known as bland. That continued into the 2000s. I find newer Lexus models look good when viewed among other cars in traffic…not so much in person at the dealer




^^^ Super strange looking IMO

 

🤦🏾‍♂️ I hope Lexus doesn’t carry this mess over for the ES. I’d rather have an RX 350, a real SUV, other than a wannabe SUV sedan.

 

Not a fan of it at all. It kind of looks like it's trying to look like a Lucid Air.

 

My top pick for the most timeless model/generation. The key is body proportion and simplicity in the shape.

 

21 inch rims! Time to start up a betting pool on the year wheel diameters revert back to the good old days of Ford Model T 30 inch rims?

Looks like Toyota Corp is still employing their statement grill design team. The Lexus spindle grill makes an unforgettable, bold statement but I think they lost the plot with this Crown design of a gapping maw of industrial expanded metal grating.

 

True. Except the LC500. It's like in a family full of fuglies, yet somehow through a freak of genetics, a supermodel is born.

 

If by SUV they mean ugly then they certainly achieved that......

 

Back on topic of the Toyota crown please, this is not yet another I don’t like new Lexus thread.

If you’ve already said that many times in the past, consider that a known statement and move on

 

They are way better looking than this Crown.

And sunglasses manufacturers continue making the same legacy frames for decades at a time.

This Crown is just odd looking for odd looking sake. Especially the two tone.

 

so they have three versions of this? a 'tall sedan', a wagon, and an suv-ish thing?

do they share any design elements?

and they're only bringing the least desirable tall sedan to the u.s.?

there's so many different pics in this thread i need help people.

i saw versions of the sedan with and without the hideous black back end, wonder what determines if it has it.

 

This is pretty odd looking as well.

 

not even close. the peugeot is way better.

yeah i see that...

maxima:



the crown:

 

Nissan Maxima was always a nice niche model. A sleeper car that is for sure

What was your favourite generation?

 

this isn't about the maxima, a car i don't care about.

read one of the car and driver articles... and this new crown sedan has a lot of nice features on the top platinum model including adaptive dampers, 340hp awd, supposedly super quiet, etc. just wish it wasn't so quirky looking.

thankfully the two tone paint (i.e., black areas) is an option, not required.

 

I saw this quote today at the online Motor Trend site, and it adds to my concerns about the direction Toyota is heading.

“Toyota says the Crown generally and the Platinum specifically are tuned for sportiness, although both also prioritize quiet operation and comfort with standard acoustic front glass and a thick noise-absorbing mat lining the firewall”.

Tuned for sportiness is ad-speak for rough ride, in my opinion. Think of the Germans and what they’ve done to Mercedes ride quality in most models, where firm to uncomfortable ride has become the norm (the S-class seemingly exempt). Fine perhaps for Toyota but looking at how they are handling Lexus I’m worried they will push that over to the ES as well. Almost every Lexus press car you see in reviews, print or online, now seems to be an F-Sport, trying to shift the brand from old man to “sporty” youth.

Many buyers like Lexus specifically because it hasn’t tried to be German in its driving dynamics. All of that is fine IF you want to opt for it, but to make “tuned for sportiness” nonsense the default is a huge mistake, in my opinion and will drive away buyers who want the historic Lexus experience, while at the same time not swaying those who will still default to BMW, MB or Audi anyway.

Too soon to see how this will actually play out, of course, but it does make me glad I grabbed my 22 ES UL when I did!