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Old 10-23-17, 10:04 PM
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Here's a clear example of why I am so against dumpy butt car designs. There is a correlation...
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Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
What you are pointing out and annoyed over is frumpy hatchback styling and the dumpy butt syndrome, not rear overhang. They extended the greenhouse over the rear wheels more with the redesign, mimicking $9999.99, compact cars of the early 80's. The A5 Sportback looks much better with a bit more of a trunk.
Yes, you're right the A5 Sportback looks better with a bit more trunk or notch back.
I actually prefer a full trunk like the A5 Coupe most.



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2018 S5 Sportback.....looks much cleaner than A7 IMO



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Honestly, it looks like some kind of Prius/ Honda Insight from the back angle. Has that ugly hybrid look.

The one thing I never liked about the current A7 is the back end. And after all these years, they still can't get it right.

I don't know if it's better or worse than before but it sure aint pretty.
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Personally, I like it. I didn't like the A7 much when it first came out, but it has really grown on me over the years. It doesn't look like many/any other cars on the road and I think Audi is trying to keep it that way. I think the re-styled back (lights in particular) is a nice refresh while maintaining a relatively consistent look to the prior models.
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From its rakish squint to its faceted tail, the new Sportback updates the design-centric theme that originated in 2009 with striking, fresh sheetmetal. But while the original A7's big hatchback layout was a novel packaging exercise paired with a somewhat compromised rear-seat experience, the new model takes a number of technological leaps forward that add some much-wanted substance to that style.

For starters, the new A7 shares enough advanced features with the tech-laden A8 to make it among the most sophisticated sedans on the planet — though Audi isn't sharing all of those bells and whistles with the U.S. market (more on that later). When the A7 drops in the fourth quarter of 2018, it will be launched with the same trick 3.0 TFSI V6 found in the A8, at least until the sportier S8 arrives with a gruntier V8. Producing 340 horsepower and 368 lb-ft of torque, the entry-model V6 is a mild hybrid that uses an integrated starter/generator on a 48-volt platform that enables up to 12 kilowatts of energy recuperation. This powertrain is mated to a seven-speed dual-clutch S-tronic gearbox. The so-called belt alternator generator (BAS) is capable of coasting with the engine off within certain speed ranges, though U.S. models won't have the coasting feature at launch.

While we're bursting your bubble, we should probably also mention that the A7 won't be offered, at least initially, with the A8's mild-boggling predictive suspension system that scans road surfaces ahead and uses electromechanical dampers to raise the body and control wheel travel, ensuring a silky ride. Instead, the A7 will come with a standard steel spring setup at launch, and an adaptive air suspension will likely be offered as an option.

Slide into the new A7, and its redesigned cabin presents a dramatically updated look and feel over the outgoing model. There are pleasantly sculpted interior surfaces with available wood veneer treatments which gently arc and flow with those creases — all clever design features whose only contradictory elements are the oddly out of place (and disappointingly inauthentic) fake rear tailpipes that have spawned throughout the Audi lineup. While exterior proportions remain unchanged, the A7's new aluminum and steel chassis expands half an inch in wheelbase and 0.8 inches in interior length, boosting legroom, headroom, and knee room for rear passengers. Access to those rear seats now involves less head banging, while the slick, frameless door design has thankfully been retained. Trunk volume grows to 18.9 cubic feet, or 49.1 cubic feet with the rear seat down, enough space to place two golf bags sideways.

As with the A8 (and much like its sister car, the Porsche Panamera), physical buttons and switches have been all but eradicated in favor of three glass panel displays. Top and center is a 10.1-inch infotainment touchscreen canted towards the driver, one of two new MMI touch response screens which command nearly every control in this two-ton sedan (save items like the tiny volume/power dial, the stalks on the steering column, and buttons and dials on the steering wheel). Below it is a slightly smaller display for climate control settings.

Conventional gauges are also ditched for a 12.3-inch Virtual Cockpit-equipped digital dashboard. While the A7's flatscreen-apalooza holds a certain appeal to extreme minimalists, the sleek and flush instrumentation begs the inevitable question: Is this brave new button-free world really a good thing? On a basic level, the new interface is intuitive and powerful. And heck, at least Audi left the HVAC vents as physical controls, unlike the frustrating Panamera which requires diving into a menu to move the vents. But the depth of Audi's menu system sometimes makes it difficult and frustrating to access certain controls that were once simple. The touchscreens also lack the tactical satisfaction of physical buttons, not to mention the fact that more attention and precision is required when aiming your fingertip at a small area on a screen in a moving car. The few key fixed "buttons," like Drive Mode select, Traction Control Off, Maximum Defrost, and headlight controls are merely spots on a hard, flush surface. Again, the setup works, but without the same physical reassurance as a real button.

The gear selector is a spring-loaded, leather-wrapped shifter that offers reasonably satisfying electromechanical connection to the transmission. At least the A7's driving dynamics are, for the most part, more physically gratifying than that simulated mechanical linkage. The standard driving mode produces a smooth, agreeable power delivery and quiet engine operation at lower speeds, feeling more like an überluxury sedan like the S-Class, 7-Series (and yes, A8) than a focused sports sedan. We're guessing future performance variants, presumably S7s and RS7s, will be considerably punchier.

Even with the steering set to Sport, effort is relatively low, though feel is good enough (and Michelin Pilot Sport 4s sticky enough) to encourage high-speed cornering. Dip deeper into the throttle and the refined hum of the V6 emerges, trading some isolation for incrementally more feedback. New optional acoustic glazing goes a long way toward subduing ambient noise in the cabin, and our test car came equipped with air suspension that also managed to tune out potholes while keeping things crispy and responsive in sport mode. Cabin silence spawns the illusion that the A7 isn't as quick as it actually is. Though acceleration seems strong with aggressive driving, the lack of noise masks the fact that the V6 is capable of whisking the A7 to 62 mph in only 5.3 seconds — pretty swift for a base engine on a big sedan.

Tackling the mountain passes outside of Cape Town, South Africa, in sport mode was more entertaining and confidence-inspiring than you might expect from such a large sedan, though some of that capability was due to our test car's four-wheel steering system. That 4WS system (you guessed it!) won't be available at launch for U.S. market cars. The system turns the rear wheels in the opposite direction as the fronts at speeds below 37 miles per hour, then turns them in phase with the fronts at higher speeds. As with the A8, rotating the rear wheels has the effect of tightening the turning radius to mimic the midsize A4's. As vehicle dynamics go, it's a pretty neat party trick that we sadly won't get in the first A7.

Oh, and one more thing: Though the A7 is ready for a slew of laser scanners, radars, ultrasonic sensors and 360 cameras, it likely won't be able to legally utilize its Level 3 autonomous capabilities at launch due to legislative regulations which have yet to approve the self-driving technology. While we didn't get to test-drive the Level 3 setup, the bare bones assisted-driving features didn't blow us away in their execution. The system did a decent enough job of keeping distance with cars ahead, but struggled to recognize neighboring traffic when it encroached into our lane. Similarly, the lane-keeping assist could have been smoother, as it pinballed within the lane while searching for its trajectory. Those niggles might have been annoying in our test car, but we'll have to experience the full-blown Level 3 treatment before we pass ultimate judgment.

While the U.S. version of the A7 will miss a few of the key tech features that help it stand out from its competitive set (among them four-wheel steering, predictive suspension, and engine coasting), its distinctive design language offers a more relatable form of differentiation, especially when viewed against the chronically staid A8. Add the volumetric appeal of its electrically operated rear hatch, and the A7 manages to tick many of the boxes we never knew we had. It's that sort of panache and grace that makes the A7 our type of large sedan, one with enough style and capability to upstage its flagship big brother, the A8.
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The more I study this redesign, the less I like it. The droopy rear, connected taillights, staggered character line, built-in body panel rub-strip, curved upper rear trunk frown, and fake exhaust pipes are all demerits. The new A5 Sportback is tidier, sharper, chiseled, and more defined. This car looks soft, loose, and feminine. However, the interior is far more modern and prominent than the new A5. Tough decisions.
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I don't get this monochrome color thing going on with luxury cars now days. Like why in the hell would you photograph a silvery/grey colored car in an overcast setting, with a grey sea as a background???? I mean come on, make your car have some visual punch through the color and the contrast through the background.

If you don't want to paint it bright red, pearlescent white, some shade of blue, a color that really pops against a dull landscape, I get that. At least if you want your car to be grey in the photos, shoot at some place like Monte Carlo, with a lot of color and beautiful earth tones, it gives a nice contrast to your car and makes it really stand out. I mean come on Audi, this is your sort of show off your style car, don't paint it a drab color and photograph it in drab places, make it sparkle, make it an object of lust in those photos. You already make the A4/A6/A8 sedan range and the Q3, Q5, Q7 SUV range for those that want to blend in.

The A7, A5 coupe, A5 sportback, TT, R8, those are cars for people who want to be a bit more shouty, who want loud colors, who don't want to blend in.
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Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
I see droopy all over the new A7. If a shortened trunk slopes downward, it's droopy.
Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
What you are pointing out and annoyed over is frumpy hatchback styling and the dumpy butt syndrome, not rear overhang.
Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
Here's a clear example of why I am so against dumpy butt car designs.
Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
The droopy rear, connected taillights, staggered character line, built-in body panel rub-strip, curved upper rear trunk frown, and fake exhaust pipes are all demerits.
ok, we hear you on dumpy, frumpy, and droopy, no need to post that again.
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Originally Posted by Fizzboy7

I see droopy all over the new A7. If a shortened trunk slopes downward, it's droopy.

What you are pointing out and annoyed over is frumpy hatchback styling and the dumpy butt syndrome, not rear overhang.

Here's a clear example of why I am so against dumpy butt car designs.

The droopy rear, connected taillights, staggered character line, built-in body panel rub-strip, curved upper rear trunk frown, and fake exhaust pipes are all demerits.
Originally Posted by bitkahuna
ok, we hear you on dumpy, frumpy, and droopy, no need to post that again.
I won't post it a half-a-dozen times, but I happen to agree with Fizzboy. I've never been a fan of coupe-styled sedans, either....although, in this case, it is technically a hatchback, like the new Buick Regal. Even my own car is more swoopy along those lines than I'd prefer, but it is getting difficult to avoid it, in a sedan, these days.

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^^ Same here. I was never an A7 fan, but to me they took a questionably styled car and made it worse.
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I don't care for it, I was never a big fan of the current A7 because the design is ruined with that rear end. The interior on the new one is awful, another touchscreen nightmare just like that awful bland interior in the new A8. Audi interiors are becoming the worst in class now with their new interiors.

"While the A7's flatscreen-apalooza holds a certain appeal to extreme minimalists, the sleek and flush instrumentation begs the inevitable question: Is this brave new button-free world really a good thing? On a basic level, the new interface is intuitive and powerful. And heck, at least Audi left the HVAC vents as physical controls, unlike the frustrating Panamera which requires diving into a menu to move the vents. But the depth of Audi's menu system sometimes makes it difficult and frustrating to access certain controls that were once simple. The touchscreens also lack the tactical satisfaction of physical buttons, not to mention the fact that more attention and precision is required when aiming your fingertip at a small area on a screen in a moving car. The few key fixed "buttons," like Drive Mode select, Traction Control Off, Maximum Defrost, and headlight controls are merely spots on a hard, flush surface. Again, the setup works, but without the same physical reassurance as a real button."


Auto "journalists" loved to take shots at "too many" buttons in interiors thinking they sound clever and smart by complaining so automakers listened to them(not actual owners) and started with these stupid touchscreens and mouse dials that just made things so much worse and now these "journalists" are complaining about the touch screens even though they more or less caused it but they will still also complain about buttons too, I read a review of the G90 and new LS500 where they still complained about too many buttons and "clutter".

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Originally Posted by UDel
Auto "journalists" loved to take shots at "too many" buttons in interiors thinking they sound clever and smart by complaining so automakers listened to them(not actual owners) and started with these stupid touchscreens and mouse dials that just made things so much worse and now these "journalists" are complaining about the touch screens even though they more or less caused it but they will still also complain about buttons too, I read a review of the G90 and new LS500 where they still complained about too many buttons and "clutter".
IMO, megascreens can work if executed properly....in conjunction with steering wheel controls.
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Awesomeness

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Too cool. I don't expect the fancy light show on USDM cars though. The Feds need to hurry and change these archaic headlight/taillight laws.
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