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Forum: GX - 2nd Gen (2010-present) 07-19-17, 08:35 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 1,798
Posted By patgilm
That's not how it works or what he said. You...

That's not how it works or what he said. You negotiate the price up-front (for example, I negotiated $500 over invoice so I knew exactly what I was going to pay when it came in 3 months later) and...
Forum: GX - 2nd Gen (2010-present) 07-19-17, 07:02 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 663
Posted By patgilm
I really don't like the effort you have to have...

I really don't like the effort you have to have to push the brake pedal when stopped and overall the brake pedal is a little mushy. It was a known problem for years but some have said the newer ones...
Forum: GX - 2nd Gen (2010-present) 07-19-17, 05:39 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 1,798
Posted By patgilm
That's not how I read his explanation. I read it...

That's not how I read his explanation. I read it as he agrees on price and orders the car. When it comes in he either buys it at the agreed upon price or walks because he doesn't like it as he...
Forum: Car Chat 07-18-17, 06:22 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 357
Posted By patgilm
I like the idea as long as the monthly payment is...

I like the idea as long as the monthly payment is decent and the car/SUV offered are what I am interested in. If I could only lease a car for one to two years at a reasonable payment I would because...
Forum: Car Chat 07-17-17, 02:58 PM
Replies: 47
Views: 1,547
Posted By patgilm
For me I would get a IS-F or a Golf R (I love...

For me I would get a IS-F or a Golf R (I love these). For a more impractical weekend car a Corvette or Gen 2 Viper.
Forum: Car Chat 07-12-17, 11:56 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,165
Posted By patgilm
I agree 100%! I used to love Acura's back in the...

I agree 100%! I used to love Acura's back in the 90's but their newer cars are so bland and boring. I test drove the TLS last year and could have gotten a great deal from a friend that was a...
Forum: Car Chat 07-12-17, 11:27 AM
Replies: 160
Views: 5,438
Posted By patgilm
I have to say, that is a pretty slick car and I...

I have to say, that is a pretty slick car and I like the interior a lot but I wonder how much that model with the upgraded rear seats is going to cost. Yes it is a little boring on the exterior...
Forum: Car Chat 07-12-17, 11:14 AM
Replies: 239
Views: 4,825
Posted By patgilm
Your furniture analogy isn't a good one. Where I...

Your furniture analogy isn't a good one. Where I live the furniture stores carry a number of different brands and is the same as a dealer (with the exception of some like Pottery Barn, Restoration...
Forum: Car Chat 07-11-17, 10:11 AM
Replies: 239
Views: 4,825
Posted By patgilm
You make a good point about whether the...

You make a good point about whether the manufacturer even wants to deal with being a dealer selling directly to the public, maybe they don't even want to. As you mentioned, Tesla is small enough and...
Forum: Car Chat 07-11-17, 07:19 AM
Replies: 239
Views: 4,825
Posted By patgilm
Yes they all do. When I buy appliances at my...

Yes they all do. When I buy appliances at my local appliance store it is pretty well known that I will be getting a discount from MSRP. I just bought some appliances that don't use a MSRP but a...
Forum: Car Chat 07-10-17, 08:00 PM
Replies: 239
Views: 4,825
Posted By patgilm
The difference here is that in a couple of your...

The difference here is that in a couple of your examples the profit margins are sky high as it doesn't cost much to generate revenue just like software companies except there is a decent amount of...
Forum: Car Chat 07-10-17, 02:51 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,165
Posted By patgilm
I used to like some of the older Infiniti designs...

I used to like some of the older Infiniti designs but up through the last few years I don't like any of their styling at all and have no interest in buying one.
Forum: Car Chat 07-10-17, 02:48 PM
Replies: 239
Views: 4,825
Posted By patgilm
This is correct, my travel agent called Disney...

This is correct, my travel agent called Disney and asked about them getting me a shipboard credit after I talked to another TA down in Florida that was offering the credit and Disney said they don't...
Forum: Car Chat 07-10-17, 02:08 PM
Replies: 160
Views: 5,438
Posted By patgilm
Makes me feel even worse :mad:

Makes me feel even worse :mad:
Forum: Car Chat 07-10-17, 08:16 AM
Replies: 239
Views: 4,825
Posted By patgilm
When I shop online I do a quick look at Amazon to...

When I shop online I do a quick look at Amazon to get a general idea of what something costs but I can usually get a better price elsewhere as Amazon's pricing isn't as good as it used to be. In fact...
Forum: Car Chat 07-10-17, 08:07 AM
Replies: 239
Views: 4,825
Posted By patgilm
I used to think title insurance was...

I used to think title insurance was stupid...until my father's friend bought a house and had title issues as the builder of the development disappeared and didn't have all their ducks in a row. They...
Forum: Car Chat 07-10-17, 08:01 AM
Replies: 239
Views: 4,825
Posted By patgilm
My point with the travel agent is that whether I...

My point with the travel agent is that whether I pay Disney directly or pay the agent, the price is the same only I am getting the agent to do all of the work for me booking things to get me the...
Forum: Car Chat 07-09-17, 08:51 PM
Replies: 239
Views: 4,825
Posted By patgilm
I still don't get it, why wouldn't a manufacturer...

I still don't get it, why wouldn't a manufacturer see additional revenue if there aren't dealers? Wouldn't they be selling them to consumers at basically MSRP? I don't think they would be selling it...
Forum: Car Chat 07-09-17, 08:38 PM
Replies: 239
Views: 4,825
Posted By patgilm
I still use a travel agent, makes my life much...

I still use a travel agent, makes my life much easier when booking my vacations. I don't see where they are costing me anything. I go to Disney every year and I get the same price as going directly...
Forum: Car Chat 07-09-17, 06:02 PM
Replies: 160
Views: 5,438
Posted By patgilm
I agree. I have an IS350 with 306hp and it's...

I agree. I have an IS350 with 306hp and it's competition in the 3 series or A4 is just as fast with 240 rated hp. My IS feels so slow sometimes from a start in first gear it is frustrating. I have...
Forum: Car Chat 07-09-17, 05:59 PM
Replies: 160
Views: 5,438
Posted By patgilm
I agree with you on the Audi leases, if they (or...

I agree with you on the Audi leases, if they (or even BMW) had better lease numbers, I would probably be driving one of those but the Lexus IS350 lease was a good bit cheaper per month and the MSRP...
Forum: Car Chat 05-25-17, 04:26 PM
Replies: 78
Views: 3,479
Posted By patgilm
A friend of mine has one coming in charcoal and...

A friend of mine has one coming in charcoal and had to pay $900 over msrp which he said was close to $50k which seems insane but sounds like it has a lot of tech. He lives in Rockville so he may have...
Forum: GX - 2nd Gen (2010-present) 05-24-17, 06:33 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 2,583
Posted By patgilm
No they didn't replace the seat cover as that...

No they didn't replace the seat cover as that wasn't the issue, it was really the foam or whatever underneath. They fixed both the driver and passenger seats. Whatever they did the problem hasn't...
Forum: GX - 2nd Gen (2010-present) 05-23-17, 08:25 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 2,583
Posted By patgilm
I can't believe some dealers are telling people...

I can't believe some dealers are telling people to contact corporate, mine was fixed under the original factory warranty, no questions asked. It is clearly a design flaw, not wear and tear just like...
Forum: Car Chat 05-21-17, 08:28 PM
Replies: 72
Views: 3,441
Posted By patgilm
I was at the Lexus dealer yesterday and they had...

I was at the Lexus dealer yesterday and they had a silver one and it looked really good but the wheels IMO were terrible and I actually like most of the factory wheels they have these days. The...
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