Help! 2002 sc430 roof problem?!?
#1
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
Help! 2002 sc430 roof problem?!?
I have a 2002 sc430 that I bought with some problems, most of which are fixed now (largely thanks to some great posts here)
But, I still have trouble with the top. When I press open, it goes through all the proper motions until the roof is folded into the trunk - then it stops. It appears there is a broken plastic piece that tells the car the roof has fully retracted, so it may then proceed to lower package tray and close trunk. If I trigger this by hand, it proceeds as normal, but one can lose some fingers that way.
Anyone know what part this is? Or have a picture of it? I suspect it triggers some kind of limit switch or actuator and with any luck won't require some whole large assembly for one little broken piece of plastic. Everything works, except this.
Thanks in advance!
But, I still have trouble with the top. When I press open, it goes through all the proper motions until the roof is folded into the trunk - then it stops. It appears there is a broken plastic piece that tells the car the roof has fully retracted, so it may then proceed to lower package tray and close trunk. If I trigger this by hand, it proceeds as normal, but one can lose some fingers that way.
Anyone know what part this is? Or have a picture of it? I suspect it triggers some kind of limit switch or actuator and with any luck won't require some whole large assembly for one little broken piece of plastic. Everything works, except this.
Thanks in advance!
#2
Lexus Test Driver
I have a 2002 sc430 that I bought with some problems, most of which are fixed now (largely thanks to some great posts here)
But, I still have trouble with the top. When I press open, it goes through all the proper motions until the roof is folded into the trunk - then it stops. It appears there is a broken plastic piece that tells the car the roof has fully retracted, so it may then proceed to lower package tray and close trunk. If I trigger this by hand, it proceeds as normal, but one can lose some fingers that way.
Anyone know what part this is? Or have a picture of it? I suspect it triggers some kind of limit switch or actuator and with any luck won't require some whole large assembly for one little broken piece of plastic. Everything works, except this.
Thanks in advance!
But, I still have trouble with the top. When I press open, it goes through all the proper motions until the roof is folded into the trunk - then it stops. It appears there is a broken plastic piece that tells the car the roof has fully retracted, so it may then proceed to lower package tray and close trunk. If I trigger this by hand, it proceeds as normal, but one can lose some fingers that way.
Anyone know what part this is? Or have a picture of it? I suspect it triggers some kind of limit switch or actuator and with any luck won't require some whole large assembly for one little broken piece of plastic. Everything works, except this.
Thanks in advance!
it sounds like a micro switch.
#3
Pole Position
What I found most helpful was being able to talk to the SC's convertible top module. It will tell you which switch is open and then you can check the manual for a repair.
You can do this by going to the dealer, or purchasing a copy of Techstream off ebay.
Here are the error codes for the top.
You can do this by going to the dealer, or purchasing a copy of Techstream off ebay.
Here are the error codes for the top.
Last edited by DshngDaryl; 09-28-17 at 11:18 AM.
#4
Pole Position
Yes, pictures would be very helpful.
If I were to RANDOMLY guess, I think it may have to do with the latch. This latch has to lock in before the next step can proceed..
I ended up adjusting some little screws on the hinge, so the latch fully engaged. It ended up making my trunk unflush, but i remedied that by using body shims like the repair manual recommended.
If I were to RANDOMLY guess, I think it may have to do with the latch. This latch has to lock in before the next step can proceed..
I ended up adjusting some little screws on the hinge, so the latch fully engaged. It ended up making my trunk unflush, but i remedied that by using body shims like the repair manual recommended.
#5
Pole Position
After thinking about your problem, I bet it is the package tray that is causing you issues.
Read this post: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sc4...eed-fix-2.html
Read this post: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sc4...eed-fix-2.html
#6
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
Picture - what is this part?!
Thanks everyone for your input. I have tried to attach pictures of the broken plastic piece. In one picture I am lifting it up. If I press down to depress this plastic piece, I hear a click of a switch. If I do this after the top has been fully lowered and while someone presses the open button, package tray folds down and trunk closes to complete sequence. But I almost lose a hand. Once was enough to verify the problem, don't want to do that again.
Anyone know what this is? Or have an easy picture for me to see what the unbroken piece looks like? THANK YOU
Anyone know what this is? Or have an easy picture for me to see what the unbroken piece looks like? THANK YOU
#7
Lexus Test Driver
Thanks everyone for your input. I have tried to attach pictures of the broken plastic piece. In one picture I am lifting it up. If I press down to depress this plastic piece, I hear a click of a switch. If I do this after the top has been fully lowered and while someone presses the open button, package tray folds down and trunk closes to complete sequence. But I almost lose a hand. Once was enough to verify the problem, don't want to do that again.
Anyone know what this is? Or have an easy picture for me to see what the unbroken piece looks like? THANK YOU
Anyone know what this is? Or have an easy picture for me to see what the unbroken piece looks like? THANK YOU
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#8
Pole Position
Thanks everyone for your input. I have tried to attach pictures of the broken plastic piece. In one picture I am lifting it up. If I press down to depress this plastic piece, I hear a click of a switch. If I do this after the top has been fully lowered and while someone presses the open button, package tray folds down and trunk closes to complete sequence. But I almost lose a hand. Once was enough to verify the problem, don't want to do that again.
Anyone know what this is? Or have an easy picture for me to see what the unbroken piece looks like? THANK YOU
Anyone know what this is? Or have an easy picture for me to see what the unbroken piece looks like? THANK YOU
I got the picture from this post that I think you will find helpful
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sc4...l-the-way.html
See if you can make out the switch on this website. The parts are just roughly sketched, but usually you can tell which part it is:
https://www.lexussouthatlantaparts.c...474224050.html <-- explanation of what each part is
#9
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
Bgw70, yes the cable seems to be on there correctly. The plastic bit I hold in the picture is broken.
DashingDar, I appreciate the pictures and yes I also suspect this part is the slide roof limit switch, but none of the parts on those sketches seem to look like what my broken piece is. I would think 84742B makes sense, but that image sure doesn't seem to look like the component I need, I would have expected some plastic end like I'm dealing with. Sure wish I had a working one or picture of it to compare to! Maybe I'll find one for sale to peek at, unless anyone on here can chime in with a photo from theirs
Thanks for the suggestions,
DashingDar, I appreciate the pictures and yes I also suspect this part is the slide roof limit switch, but none of the parts on those sketches seem to look like what my broken piece is. I would think 84742B makes sense, but that image sure doesn't seem to look like the component I need, I would have expected some plastic end like I'm dealing with. Sure wish I had a working one or picture of it to compare to! Maybe I'll find one for sale to peek at, unless anyone on here can chime in with a photo from theirs
Thanks for the suggestions,
#10
Moderator
Bgw70, yes the cable seems to be on there correctly. The plastic bit I hold in the picture is broken.
DashingDar, I appreciate the pictures and yes I also suspect this part is the slide roof limit switch, but none of the parts on those sketches seem to look like what my broken piece is. I would think 84742B makes sense, but that image sure doesn't seem to look like the component I need, I would have expected some plastic end like I'm dealing with. Sure wish I had a working one or picture of it to compare to! Maybe I'll find one for sale to peek at, unless anyone on here can chime in with a photo from theirs
Thanks for the suggestions,
DashingDar, I appreciate the pictures and yes I also suspect this part is the slide roof limit switch, but none of the parts on those sketches seem to look like what my broken piece is. I would think 84742B makes sense, but that image sure doesn't seem to look like the component I need, I would have expected some plastic end like I'm dealing with. Sure wish I had a working one or picture of it to compare to! Maybe I'll find one for sale to peek at, unless anyone on here can chime in with a photo from theirs
Thanks for the suggestions,
#11
Driver School Candidate
Top issue
This is a great thread for top related issues. Maybe some one here can offer some advice on a similar issue. I'm looking to buy this sc430 but the rear won't go all the way down. Any ideas on what involved to repair and potential cost? Thanks in advance!
#12
Pole Position
Thanks everyone for your input. I have tried to attach pictures of the broken plastic piece. In one picture I am lifting it up. If I press down to depress this plastic piece, I hear a click of a switch. If I do this after the top has been fully lowered and while someone presses the open button, package tray folds down and trunk closes to complete sequence. But I almost lose a hand. Once was enough to verify the problem, don't want to do that again.
Anyone know what this is? Or have an easy picture for me to see what the unbroken piece looks like? THANK YOU
Anyone know what this is? Or have an easy picture for me to see what the unbroken piece looks like? THANK YOU
#13
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
Thanks again for your input.
#14
Pole Position
Here are some pictures. It looks like the left and right side are NOT identical (which I am sure you already knew). The third picture is the left side.
It looks like there is still a nub of the other half of the broken part on the bolt side. Once you get the plastic cover off, hopefully you can remove the bolt and then jb weld the two parts together. I think if you lay some toothpicks or strips of aluminum from a soda can into the jb weld, you could probably reinforce it enough.
It looks like there is still a nub of the other half of the broken part on the bolt side. Once you get the plastic cover off, hopefully you can remove the bolt and then jb weld the two parts together. I think if you lay some toothpicks or strips of aluminum from a soda can into the jb weld, you could probably reinforce it enough.
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#15
In looking at the pictures I can clearly see that there is looks like a broken seam visible in the pictures not having to do with the part that is broke. The seam looks like its a sort or oval shaped open center. It may not have come apart but it looks like its through the entire bracket or what ever you call it