OEM Michelin, OEM Bridgestone Vs Other (merged threads)
12-12-18, 08:07 AM
#211
I’m reading the Firestone/Bridgestone tire warranty (or lack thereof) book & there is a lot of exclusions & double talk. Much of what is written seems to disagree with what I was told by the Bridgestone tire store. Ironically, I noticed they also now sell Toyo tires at that factory store. Perhaps that tells a bigger story & explains why Firestone had so many law suits from defective tires. I’m going to dig much further into this & if I don’t get any satisfaction, I will never again accept a vehicle with garbage tires. I always thought that was kind of silly to hear about some customers refusing the OEM tires. I thought they were being overly picky, but now I understand & agree with them.
12-12-18, 08:26 AM
#212
Racer
I’m not trying to be a smartass, but what “features” are they emphasizing? How to rip customers off? It doesn’t matter if it’s been going on a month or a decade, or if they all do it; it’s WRONG. I expect more from Lexus, who claims to build very safe vehicles.
I’m reading the Firestone/Bridgestone tire warranty (or lack thereof) book & there is a lot of exclusions & double talk. Much of what is written seems to disagree with what I was told by the Bridgestone tire store. Ironically, I noticed they also now sell Toyo tires at that factory store. Perhaps that tells a bigger story & explains why Firestone had so many law suits from defective tires. I’m going to dig much further into this & if I don’t get any satisfaction, I will never again accept a vehicle with garbage tires. I always thought that was kind of silly to hear about some customers refusing the OEM tires. I thought they were being overly picky, but now I understand & agree with them.
12-12-18, 09:49 AM
#213
I’m not trying to be a smartass, but what “features” are they emphasizing? How to rip customers off? It doesn’t matter if it’s been going on a month or a decade, or if they all do it; it’s WRONG. I expect more from Lexus, who claims to build very safe vehicles.
I’m reading the Firestone/Bridgestone tire warranty (or lack thereof) book & there is a lot of exclusions & double talk. Much of what is written seems to disagree with what I was told by the Bridgestone tire store. Ironically, I noticed they also now sell Toyo tires at that factory store. Perhaps that tells a bigger story & explains why Firestone had so many law suits from defective tires. I’m going to dig much further into this & if I don’t get any satisfaction, I will never again accept a vehicle with garbage tires. I always thought that was kind of silly to hear about some customers refusing the OEM tires. I thought they were being overly picky, but now I understand & agree with them.
12-12-18, 10:03 AM
#214
Lexus Test Driver
The Michelins on our RX are wearing just fine with 22K on the clock. I expect to get 40K or more out of them.
12-12-18, 10:12 AM
#215
Advanced
Thats really unfortunate. When I was test driving a RX here in Canada I asked if I could get the Michelin's that came with my Venza, and they said right now only the Bridgestone Ecopias are now being supplied by Lexus. Like you said they must have got a sweet deal from Bridgestone. If you look at the Tire Ratings in CR Reports the Ecpoias are rated way down the list, at least compared to the Michelins. Good luck.
I don't know for the subsequent years though.
12-12-18, 11:08 AM
#217
Lexus Test Driver
Same for me 2017 with 20" Michelins. How do you like the ride from the Toyos compared to the Michelins? I had Toyos several years back on another SUV and they provided a super smooth and quiet ride.
12-12-18, 02:02 PM
#218
I really like them and my next door neighbour after seeing mine also bought them, but they are not the same type of tire, the Michelins were summer ones and these Toyos are all weather (not all seasons) so that I don't have to change tires every 6 months. Michelin had all weather but not in 20" alas.
12-12-18, 02:08 PM
#219
Lexus Test Driver
I really like them and my next door neighbour after seeing mine also bought them, but they are not the same type of tire, the Michelins were summer ones and these Toyos are all weather (not all seasons) so that I don't have to change tires every 6 months. Michelin had all weather but not in 20" alas.
12-12-18, 02:33 PM
#220
I've never had a set of OEM's that I liked. Usually 20 to 30K is the best I've gotten. Doesn't really bother me as I've already researched and picked out the replacement set.
12-12-18, 07:05 PM
#222
Also, what model 20” Michelin tire does Lexus sometimes use for OEM?
12-13-18, 05:57 AM
#223
Please educate me, what’s the difference between “All Weather” & “All Season”? I looked at my Consumer Reports & they have a listing for SUV tires. Why wouldn’t the RX use non-aggressive SUV tires vs. car tires? My thinking is that would really help the folks that have to deal with snow. I’m blessed with little to no snow here, but most of the US & Canada aren’t so lucky.
Also, what model 20” Michelin tire does Lexus sometimes use for OEM?
All seasons is a misnomer, it's really at best a 3 season tire if you live anywhere where there is winter.
All-Weather is a new kind of tire that started about 10yrs ago, I think the first manufacturer was NOKIA a Finnish company. It's a tire made up of 2 rubber compounds, one side has summer compound and the other has winter compound with winter treads. It's a compromise and not as good as either (summer-winter) at the limit, but very good if you don't race or live in area of deep snow, but great for slush & ice, since I didn't want to change tires avery fall-spring I went with this tipe of tire.
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