RX 350 vs Audi Q5
07-19-17, 04:45 PM
#46
Lead Lap
To be honest in 10 years, both cars will have been replaced by the next generation.... longevity in this class is secondary for some buyers
07-19-17, 08:43 PM
#47
This has really become quite an entertaining post. First, let's get this point out of the way. In 10 years, there is no question that more RX's will be on the road than all Q5's, Q7's, Volvo XC 60's & 90's of the same year combined. Like it or not, Current models of Euorpean cars will never last as long as Japanese. Main reason why I gave up my X5 @ 20k miles. Have too many friends that have spent crazy money on European brands out of warranty. The newest Volvo's look great on paper, but keep in mind they are owned by a Chinese company. Take a look at the Swedespeed forums for the nightmares that XC90 owners are dealing with and you'll get an idea of how the '18 XC60 will do in initial quality. Frankly, I hate the new styling that Lexus has adopted. The exteriors are hideous and the interiors are frustrating for $60k. The semi-analine seats have nu-luxe on the bottom bolsters for Gods sake! That's ridiculous for this price point! The whole damn seat should be leather! That being said, I know that I can drop $60k on a Lexus and put 200k miles on it without batting an eye. Can't do that on any of the European luxury brands. With the miles I drive, Lexus was really the only choice.
07-20-17, 03:51 AM
#48
Pole Position
Frankly, I hate the new styling that Lexus has adopted. The exteriors are hideous and the interiors are frustrating for $60k. The semi-analine seats have nu-luxe on the bottom bolsters for Gods sake! That's ridiculous for this price point! The whole damn seat should be leather! That being said, I know that I can drop $60k on a Lexus and put 200k miles on it without batting an eye. Can't do that on any of the European luxury brands. With the miles I drive, Lexus was really the only choice.
Go out to other sites like YouTube, Road & Track etc and read the comments from articles or clips that are reviewing the RX or NX. They are 9 to 1 against the new styling especially the front grill. The comments are vicious.
I thought I would be a Lexus owner for life. It is a no brainer with six years in a row #1 in dependability by J D Power. Another survey found Lexus to be the third cheapest to maintain. I thought that I could always just look down at the ground while entering one but than once in the car I still have to look at the interior.
The Volvo XC60 is getting tremendous reviews and hear what you say about their reliability. IMO the interior and exterior is far superior in looks. The plug-in hybrid will get 30 miles on all electric than 50 mpg after. J D Power ranks them right at the industry average. I always buy my cars used and about one year old. Based on your comment, I just looked at their certified warranty on used cars. It is 7 years and 100,000 miles. That would cover me the whole time.
Last edited by Freds430; 07-20-17 at 06:09 AM.
07-20-17, 03:55 AM
#49
This has really become quite an entertaining post. First, let's get this point out of the way. In 10 years, there is no question that more RX's will be on the road than all Q5's, Q7's, Volvo XC 60's & 90's of the same year combined. Like it or not, Current models of Euorpean cars will never last as long as Japanese. Main reason why I gave up my X5 @ 20k miles. Have too many friends that have spent crazy money on European brands out of warranty. The newest Volvo's look great on paper, but keep in mind they are owned by a Chinese company. Take a look at the Swedespeed forums for the nightmares that XC90 owners are dealing with and you'll get an idea of how the '18 XC60 will do in initial quality. Frankly, I hate the new styling that Lexus has adopted. The exteriors are hideous and the interiors are frustrating for $60k. The semi-analine seats have nu-luxe on the bottom bolsters for Gods sake! That's ridiculous for this price point! The whole damn seat should be leather! That being said, I know that I can drop $60k on a Lexus and put 200k miles on it without batting an eye. Can't do that on any of the European luxury brands. With the miles I drive, Lexus was really the only choice.
To me it means we dont care if your unhappy or your car is not performing as others. As long as its not breaking down your on your own. So reliable maybe but that doesn't tell the whole story.
07-20-17, 06:29 AM
#51
Pole Position
07-20-17, 06:46 AM
#53
Pole Position
But when 60% of your front grill is black plastic and you have black plastic around your wheel wells that does not look cheap!!!! Remember taste are to each their own!!!
Last edited by Freds430; 07-20-17 at 06:50 AM.
07-20-17, 06:56 AM
#54
Advanced
And my wheel is wood and leather.
07-20-17, 07:53 AM
#55
Advanced
07-20-17, 08:20 AM
#57
Advanced
07-20-17, 08:33 AM
#58
Racer
Looks are definately in the eyes of the beholder. Be Honest....That's a nice looking Volvo.
As much I admire Lexus I haven't met one women that said the new grills look nice.
As much I admire Lexus I haven't met one women that said the new grills look nice.
07-20-17, 08:49 AM
#59
Advanced
I like the front and the LED headlights. But for the rest of the body: too square. The lines are not fluid like the Lexus or Infinity.
The interior is square too, just look at the console, straight lines. I know someone who has it (2017) and I did not like it. Prefer my 2016 RX. My only concern was that the silver (which is the best looking of all colors) came only with black interior.
I agree (I don't recall who mentionned it) that the choice of leather by Lexus could have been better.