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Old 12-30-14, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by pbm317
As Gojirra99 mentioned, the RX has almost always outsold the ES, recently by a pretty healthy margin. In 2010 the RX outsold the ES almost 2:1. in 2013 it was ~104,000 RX vs ~73,000 ES. 2014 is on pace to be similar for the two models.
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Yes, but it will be interesting to see what the NX does to RX sales....and, of course, the new RX redesign itself coming next year.
The RX is the all time highest selling Lexus vehicle. Since inception (1990) the ES has sold 1,307,484 units. The RX since inception (1999) has sold 1,499,062 units. Now that the NX has arrived we will have to wait and see how it will affect the RX. Last month (November 2014) Lexus sold 22 NX's, 93,865 RX's.

When the IS arrived sales of the ES actually increased. So sales of the RX could either increase, decrease or stay the same now that the NX is here...only time will tell.

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Old 12-30-14, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Trexus
The RX is the all time highest selling Lexus vehicle. Since inception (1990) the ES has sold 1,307,484 units. The RX since inception (1999) has sold 1,499,062 units. Now that the NX has arrived we will have to wait and see how it will affect the RX. Last month (November 2014) Lexus sold 22 NX's.
Thanks. I knew it would be relatively close between the ES and RX. That's not a very large difference.

When the IS arrived sales of the ES actually increased.
The IS, though, being a RWD (and, later, AWD) sport-sedan, was not a direct ES competitor. The NX, in exception (at least as of now), is much closer to being just a smaller RX. But, of course, as a number here have posted, the next RX will be more separated from the NX, being larger and probably having a 3rd-row seat.
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In 9 less years, the RX has sold 200,00 more than what the ES managed. I'd say that is quite a difference. Both are Lexus' big volume cars of course, but the RX is the big dog.
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Old 12-30-14, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Thanks. I knew it would be relatively close between the ES and RX. That's not a very large difference.
The difference is HUGE on a units sold per year basis if you can actually figure that out
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Old 12-31-14, 04:59 AM
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latest MAG X has renderings of the new RX, they say it will have an innovative window shape for coupe like styling.

http://www.mag-x.com/shop/products/d...?product_id=65
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Old 12-31-14, 05:16 AM
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Default 2016 Lexus RX render shows possible design



Render influenced by Toyota Harrier

The upcoming 2016 Lexus RX has been rendered ahead of an already confirmed world debut next month at NAIAS in Detroit.

The third generation mid-size luxury crossover from Lexus went on sale towards the end of 2008 so naturally time has come for an all-new model which has been envisioned in this render as a Toyota Harrier but with the big Lexus spindle grille. This is merely a speculative design but the real deal could have a lot in common and might also be influenced by the smaller NX crossover.

Details about the fourth-gen Lexus RX are scarce at the moment but it is believed the crossover will be enlarged to distance itself from the NX and thanks to the increased dimensions it will likely spawn a seven-seat variant featuring a three-row seating arrangement.

We will know for sure in less than two weeks when the new Lexus RX will premiere at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit.
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http://www.worldcarfans.com/11412318...ossible-design
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Originally Posted by Gojirra99
The difference is HUGE on a units sold per year basis if you can actually figure that out
+1, the difference is huge. There's 9 more years of sales for the ES, but it still fell short of the RX.
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Old 12-31-14, 05:47 AM
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Lexus ES
1990: 20,728
1991: 22,476
1992: 39,652
1993: 35,655
1994: 39,108
1995: 41,508
1996: 44,773
1997: 58,430
1998: 48,644
1999: 45,860
2000: 41,320
2001: 44,847
2002: 71,450
2003: 65,762
2004: 75,916
2005: 67,577
2006: 75,987
2007: 82,867
2008: 64,135
2009: 48,485
2010: 48,652
2011: 40,873
2012: 56,158
2013: 72,581
2014: 64,726 (YTD)

Lexus RX
2000: 89,864
2001: 77,426
2002: 72,963
2003: 92,366
2004: 106,531
2005: 108,775
2006: 108,348
2007: 103,340
2008: 84,181
2009: 93,379
2010: 95,790
2011: 82,595
2012: 95,381
2013: 103,920
2014: 93,865 (YTD)
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Originally Posted by Gojirra99
They only sell hybrid RX in EU ??
yes, only 450h and its very expensive due to our taxes... so basically, it is more expensive than Q7 with V6 diesel, easily... GS had a same problem, but GS300h mitigated that a lot since it is actually affordable (2 years late for GS though). I wonder if they will do RX300h for Europe, with reduced weight it would work well for our markets. Probably not.

But RX450h is best selling Lexus for a long time internationally, despite being more expensive than very expensive GS450h :-).

As to other people looking for manufacturing, in FY2012 (last full numbers), Lexus JP produced 106k ES and 80k RX... plus around 80k-100k from Canada, and it is easy to see how much better RX sells Worldwide. 45% of Japanese production is expensive RX450h.
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Originally Posted by Vh_Supra26
Lexus ES
1990: 20,728
1991: 22,476
1992: 39,652
1993: 35,655
1994: 39,108
1995: 41,508
1996: 44,773
1997: 58,430
1998: 48,644
1999: 45,860
2000: 41,320
2001: 44,847
2002: 71,450
2003: 65,762
2004: 75,916
2005: 67,577
2006: 75,987
2007: 82,867
2008: 64,135
2009: 48,485
2010: 48,652
2011: 40,873
2012: 56,158
2013: 72,581
2014: 64,726 (YTD)

Lexus RX
2000: 89,864
2001: 77,426
2002: 72,963
2003: 92,366
2004: 106,531
2005: 108,775
2006: 108,348
2007: 103,340
2008: 84,181
2009: 93,379
2010: 95,790
2011: 82,595
2012: 95,381
2013: 103,920
2014: 93,865 (YTD)
these are sales in the US right? Difference in worldwide is even bigger since ES is not offered in most other markets, while RX is best selling vehicle for Lexus.... so add 10% to ES to get worldwide sales and 2x for RX to get worldwide sales.
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^Yes sir, I should have posted "US sales".
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1RX (1999-2003) = 422,957
2RX (2004-2009) = 604,54
3RX (2010-Present) = 471,551

It appears the 2RX was the most popular. We will wait until the 4RX arrives and see what happens. This is U.S. sales not worldwide.
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Old 12-31-14, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Gojirra99
The difference is HUGE on a units sold per year basis if you can actually figure that out

Originally Posted by hypervish

+1, the difference is huge. There's 9 more years of sales for the ES, but it still fell short of the RX.

Not as I see it. By my math, the difference is about 13%. Though that DOES represent a lot of single vehicles on an absolute basis, it's not a huge difference, margin-wise.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Not as I see it. By my math, the difference is about 13%. Though that DOES represent a lot of single vehicles on an absolute basis, it's not a huge difference, margin-wise.
What did you base this 13% difference on?
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Old 12-31-14, 01:20 PM
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MM, I think you are messing up the math and/or missing some key factors about the number of years sold in how you look at this. You are going to be outnumbered by pretty much everyone on this one....

Let's get this thread back on topic about the new RX and not a math lesson.
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