Originally Posted by GSteg (Post 9386514)

My 2013 operates fine with the keys in my pocket.

Originally Posted by JDR76 (Post 9387049)

There are not a lot of differences in those three years.

As noted above, the '14 added Siri Eyes Free if you have an iPhone. The '15 changed the fog lights from halogen to LED (a simple fix on '13 and '14s). Other than that, there was a slight change in '14 to the shape of the knob for the remote touch for nav, and they changed the "LEXUS" lettering on the center stack from gold to silver. :D I can't think of any other changes. I'd just look for the best deal.

Originally Posted by NRX (Post 9387307)

Thanks for confirming! I am hoping this is a standard feature and not an option.

Originally Posted by lexus114 (Post 9387400)

my 15 has regular fog lights. this may be something that comes with hid headlamps.

Originally Posted by rj4510 (Post 9388144)

Air boss, any issues with the X3 that keeps you going back? More of a curiosity question.

Originally Posted by airboss (Post 9388421)

It's been a great vehicle. I bought it with 10k miles on it, I've put 96k on it in 8 years. Blew an oil/air separator a two weeks ago that ended up running $1500, plus a leaking expansion tank, for $2130 on a vehicle worth maybe $8/9k. I spent about $3k a year or so ago, so just getting tired of spending money on it. The shop is 30 minutes away and it is a pain to drop it off, get a ride, etc. The Lexus dealer will be ten minutes further, so probably ought to be buying certified from them so they'll come get mine, but at least they should give me a loaner (BMW would too, if I took it to the stealer). It drives great, has great utility (I've towed a small trailer with it, moving kids to and from college), back seat folds down to carry 'stuff'. Love the way it drives, accelerates, handles. I commuted 145 miles each way two or three times a week for five years, and the AWD drive was fantastic. Honestly, I drove way faster than I should have in some really crappy weather, but it never slipped once. I've looked at the RX series for a long time, but figured they didn't drive as 'sporty' as the BMW. That being said, I have a Z4 that I drive during the summer, so I'll have my acceleration/curve fix with it. My commute is now about four miles each way, so really, spending $35k on an RX350 is overkill. My wife drives a '14 Avalon Hybrid, so we have the full-size car covered. But, I keep coming back to something 'newer', with some comfort, bells and whistles. I'm old enough to understand they bells and whistles fade, but I'm looking for something big enough to take four guys to lunch and not have to apologize for making them shoehorn in (of course, the rest of them drive either small pickups or GMC mid-size SUV's, so they have not much more room than my X3). I'll miss the towing capability of the X3 (although it is time for my kids to move their own stuff, lol), I'm sure I'll miss how it drives, how it sounds, how it accelerates, but I don't think I'll miss the cost of maintaining that wonderful german engineering. I think most of all, I'll miss the heated steering wheel!

Originally Posted by rj4510 (Post 9388493)

I have an 07 Z4 as well and it fulfills my need to burn around turns and twisties. Almost went with an X3 or 5, but this is my primary vehicle and didn't want to shell out the extra on maintenance. It's been a good compromise though my wife keeps saying she'd prefer a tad stiffer ride. I think the plushness is second to none and I'm the car enthusiast, so go figure. You can get the heated wheel with the luxury package. Depending on your area, this package may or may not be plentiful. I gave up looking for one in Phoenix. They probably get shipped out to other states with most of our AWDs. I would have liked an AWD, but while available, couldn't quite get one for the budget I was in, unless older. Found one and it smelled like an ashtray, so definitely reflected in the price. If you want a stiffer ride, look for an F Sport, but they usually want a mint for them.

The RX is a sweet ride. Took me a bit to warm up to it, but no regrets, other than wishing I had gotten an AWD, even though I only ever used my old one twice in 13 years. It cost me way more to maintain and sucked gas like a pig, but still liked that option. Good luck on your hunt.

Originally Posted by JDR76 (Post 9387445)

It's standard.



Interesting. I thought the LED fogs were standard for '15. Thanks for letting me know.

Originally Posted by lexus114 (Post 9388548)

well, i bought my 15 sight unseen from my dealer. not going to do that again. i didn't get the hid lights (although i have no problem with the halogen lights) or rain sensing wipers. but not sure if that one really matters.. these two things slipped by me and the deal was already done so.....but i am very content with it at least. it is a very good car.

Originally Posted by lexus114 (Post 9388548)

well, i bought my 15 sight unseen from my dealer. not going to do that again. i didn't get the hid lights (although i have no problem with the halogen lights) or rain sensing wipers. but not sure if that one really matters.. these two things slipped by me and the deal was already done so.....but i am very content with it at least. it is a very good car.

Originally Posted by airboss (Post 9388578)

Appreciate that insight. I'm juggling two 2015's - one has Comfort Package but isn't certified....

My wife had rain-sensing wipers on her old Avalon, her new one does not. She would like to trade.

Just to be clear, are these 'don't ever touch the switch, they come on when it rains', or 'speed sensing'?

FWIW, just had a gal at a Lexus dealer tell me they would probably knock $1000 if I wanted one of their cars 'non-certified'. That is interesting that they consider the extra two years of warranty, plus two years service (max four events), worth $1000.