RX350 Transmission Oil Change (merged threads)
#229
Moderator
I am pleased Mobil 1 ATF is working for you. Did you do a full exchange or one or more drain and fills.
I do not see Toyota WS listed on the Mobil 1 ATF application chart https://mobiloil.com/en/automatic-tr.../synthetic-atf
However it meets JASO 1-A which may mean it will work https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1128386
However I found this discussion on bobistheoilguy https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum...Number=2365821
I have used MAG 1 synthetic low viscosity ATF and it works perfectly and has for a couple of years
I do not see Toyota WS listed on the Mobil 1 ATF application chart https://mobiloil.com/en/automatic-tr.../synthetic-atf
However it meets JASO 1-A which may mean it will work https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1128386
However I found this discussion on bobistheoilguy https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum...Number=2365821
I have used MAG 1 synthetic low viscosity ATF and it works perfectly and has for a couple of years
#230
Racer
I am pleased Mobil 1 ATF is working for you. Did you do a full exchange or one or more drain and fills.
I do not see Toyota WS listed on the Mobil 1 ATF application chart https://mobiloil.com/en/automatic-tr.../synthetic-atf
However it meets JASO 1-A which may mean it will work https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum...Number=1128386
However I found this discussion on bobistheoilguy https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum...Number=2365821
I have used MAG 1 synthetic low viscosity ATF and it works perfectly and has for a couple of years https://www.amazon.com/Mag-64092-6PK.../dp/B00DE7LVSG
I do not see Toyota WS listed on the Mobil 1 ATF application chart https://mobiloil.com/en/automatic-tr.../synthetic-atf
However it meets JASO 1-A which may mean it will work https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum...Number=1128386
However I found this discussion on bobistheoilguy https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum...Number=2365821
I have used MAG 1 synthetic low viscosity ATF and it works perfectly and has for a couple of years https://www.amazon.com/Mag-64092-6PK.../dp/B00DE7LVSG
I'm also pretty sure that there are other fluids that will work and that have not been endorsed, but which ones?. Mobil 1 ATF probably will work very well as Mobil makes also Toyota Oil 0W20 so they may have an inside track on this.
The question is are you willing to gamble the transmission's life on this? Ainsin makes very good and robust transmissions, some say te best in the world, but IMO opinion the most important factor is to change the fluid regularly.
#231
Moderator
From the bobistheoilguy link it appears Mobil is one of the manufacturers of Toyota WS which is also known as JWS 3324. https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2365821
https://www.mobil.com/english-cn/pas...mobil-atf-3324
A Toyota Tacoma forum member researched ATFs compatible for WS https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/...-fluid.373083/
It is a long list and it appears WS is similar to many Dexron VI fluids.
https://www.mobil.com/english-cn/pas...mobil-atf-3324
A Toyota Tacoma forum member researched ATFs compatible for WS https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/...-fluid.373083/
It is a long list and it appears WS is similar to many Dexron VI fluids.
#232
Driver School Candidate
Easier trans fluid drain and fill
I bought this it at homedepot
This makes filling the 3RX (and virtually every modern toyota) transmission much easier. My friend who works as a technician recommended this product. His shop has a row of these each filled with different oil or fluid to be pumped into a tight acess fill port. I cut of the spray nozzle and heated up the plastic spot to put a hook shape in the sprayer spout so it hangs from the fill port. Fill from under with car up on stands.
Car must be level, warmed up and running to check the final level. My RX 350 awd acts happier now that it has fresh ws fluid and filled to the proper level. I found the trans was under filled by about 3/4 of bottle. Now the car doesn’t lurch when I put it in drive just after starting it on a cold morning.
This makes filling the 3RX (and virtually every modern toyota) transmission much easier. My friend who works as a technician recommended this product. His shop has a row of these each filled with different oil or fluid to be pumped into a tight acess fill port. I cut of the spray nozzle and heated up the plastic spot to put a hook shape in the sprayer spout so it hangs from the fill port. Fill from under with car up on stands.
Car must be level, warmed up and running to check the final level. My RX 350 awd acts happier now that it has fresh ws fluid and filled to the proper level. I found the trans was under filled by about 3/4 of bottle. Now the car doesn’t lurch when I put it in drive just after starting it on a cold morning.
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#233
Its really easy
Going to order for my sister's RX350.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Toyota-Lexu...t/222731930378
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Toyota-Lexu...t/222731930378
Last edited by camlex; 12-17-17 at 04:26 AM.
#234
Driver School Candidate
Going to order for my sister's RX350.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Toyota-Lexu...t/222731930378
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Toyota-Lexu...t/222731930378
#235
Good morning,
Yes, Inner tube (Straw) is part of kit for your specific car. You will replace it with the original.
This will make transmission maintenance very easy and accurate.
Yes, Inner tube (Straw) is part of kit for your specific car. You will replace it with the original.
This will make transmission maintenance very easy and accurate.
#236
Moderator
I cannot read half of the red writing on the eBay listing photos and have some questions about the usefulness of this item. It appears to just make it a little easier to pour fluid into the transmission. You appear to still lack a dipstick and have to deal with the idiotic temperature measurement issue if doing a flush. It does replace the plastic overflow tube with a metal one, but I am not sure how that is useful. It also appears overpriced for the parts that are included and for what it appears to do.
Please correct me if wrong. I have no problem quickly removing the factory fill bolt to add fluid with a long funnel.
Please correct me if wrong. I have no problem quickly removing the factory fill bolt to add fluid with a long funnel.
#237
I cannot read half of the red writing on the eBay listing photos and have some questions about the usefulness of this item. It appears to just make it a little easier to pour fluid into the transmission. You appear to still lack a dipstick and have to deal with the idiotic temperature measurement issue if doing a flush. It does replace the plastic overflow tube with a metal one, but I am not sure how that is useful. It also appears overpriced for the parts that are included and for what it appears to do.
Please correct me if wrong. I have no problem quickly removing the factory fill bolt to add fluid with a long funnel.
Please correct me if wrong. I have no problem quickly removing the factory fill bolt to add fluid with a long funnel.
You are correct. no more bending , using pump,funnel etc.
"still lack a dipstick and have to deal with the idiotic temperature measurement issue if doing a flush"
first this is not flush, its drain and refill. if you do regular fluid change then you don't need flush(Replacing all trans. fluid)
Second, this tube(From Kit) will allow to check your trans. fluid level at operating temperature. ( by driving 15-20 minutes on road and idling for 5-10 minutes on level surface)
you open drain plug and let it drain extra fluid or no fluid comes out then add until you see fluid draining.
"Please correct me if wrong. I have no problem quickly removing the factory fill bolt to add fluid with a long funnel."
Its part of his kit. I personally liked it. makes so easy, when I bought 50,000 car I wants to enjoy and makes simple for $75 its cheap.
#238
Moderator
So it is a bit easier to pour fluid in. $75 is a lot for that privilege.
My operative word was "IF" doing a flush. I have done 5 drain and fills on my RX. The reason to do drain and fills is to avoid the idiotic overflow tube fluid level system which requires careful fluid temperature measurement, not just driving and idling like you indicate.
I do it cold and with the ATF at the same temperature as the car. I carefully measure what goes out and what goes in to avoid the idiotic ATF overflow system which I do not trust. Before the RX I had a 2008 MINI Cooper with a similar Aisin transmission which also had the same overflow tube system. That is when I learned about cold drain and fills.
My operative word was "IF" doing a flush. I have done 5 drain and fills on my RX. The reason to do drain and fills is to avoid the idiotic overflow tube fluid level system which requires careful fluid temperature measurement, not just driving and idling like you indicate.
I do it cold and with the ATF at the same temperature as the car. I carefully measure what goes out and what goes in to avoid the idiotic ATF overflow system which I do not trust. Before the RX I had a 2008 MINI Cooper with a similar Aisin transmission which also had the same overflow tube system. That is when I learned about cold drain and fills.
#239
So it is a bit easier to pour fluid in. $75 is a lot for that privilege.
My operative word was "IF" doing a flush. I have done 5 drain and fills on my RX. The reason to do drain and fills is to avoid the idiotic overflow tube fluid level system which requires careful fluid temperature measurement, not just driving and idling like you indicate.
I do it cold and with the ATF at the same temperature as the car. I carefully measure what goes out and what goes in to avoid the idiotic ATF overflow system which I do not trust. Before the RX I had a 2008 MINI Cooper with a similar Aisin transmission which also had the same overflow tube system. That is when I learned about cold drain and fills.
My operative word was "IF" doing a flush. I have done 5 drain and fills on my RX. The reason to do drain and fills is to avoid the idiotic overflow tube fluid level system which requires careful fluid temperature measurement, not just driving and idling like you indicate.
I do it cold and with the ATF at the same temperature as the car. I carefully measure what goes out and what goes in to avoid the idiotic ATF overflow system which I do not trust. Before the RX I had a 2008 MINI Cooper with a similar Aisin transmission which also had the same overflow tube system. That is when I learned about cold drain and fills.
existing tube(Lexus Straw) is design for 104-113F
Kit straw is design for operating temp. which is 184-196F.
Also, In past, I did cold (room temp.) fluid change, measure and added same amount back. I was surprise, when kit straw ask for 1/2 qt. more.
so how you can tell that original fluid level is correct with began.
and nothing wrong to use funnel, pump, open close side shield etc..
#240
Moderator
Thanks, now you provided additional information regarding their overflow tube and how it improves the ability to do the overflow test so the temperature range is higher and easier to achieve. That is a huge improvement.
Let us know how it works out checking the fluid with the new overflow tube. Have you installed it yet?
With the cold drain and fills you certainly do not know if the original fill was correct, however if it shifted fine, then it likely was within an acceptable range. I usually add in 8 ounces extra to allow for spillage, loss during use etc. No problems so far after doing this on 2 different vehicles over 8 years.
Let us know how it works out checking the fluid with the new overflow tube. Have you installed it yet?
With the cold drain and fills you certainly do not know if the original fill was correct, however if it shifted fine, then it likely was within an acceptable range. I usually add in 8 ounces extra to allow for spillage, loss during use etc. No problems so far after doing this on 2 different vehicles over 8 years.