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Old 03-02-17, 04:53 AM
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Heading on getting a 2017 RC-F with variable suspension. Will an aftermarket spring like swifts or any type of coil over hinder or delete the variable suspension?
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Originally Posted by Spam89
Heading on getting a 2017 RC-F with variable suspension. Will an aftermarket spring like swifts or any type of coil over hinder or delete the variable suspension?
Avoid e-suspensions like the plague. Back when I was looking at the M4, I always left the adaptive suspension option checked off. With the RCF, it's even more important to stick to a conventional suspension setup (2015-16 MYs) because it may take ages, if ever, for reputable aftermarket vendors to design yet another adjustable coilover setup to deal with the added complexity.

Lowering on aftermarket springs on stock shocks is for plebians. RCF deserves better.
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Originally Posted by ROK
Avoid e-suspensions like the plague. Back when I was looking at the M4, I always left the adaptive suspension option checked off. With the RCF, it's even more important to stick to a conventional suspension setup (2015-16 MYs) because it may take ages, if ever, for reputable aftermarket vendors to design yet another adjustable coilover setup to deal with the added complexity.

Lowering on aftermarket springs on stock shocks is for plebians. RCF deserves better.
Hey Rok, thanks for the reply. I might sound stupid but is e-suspension short term for adaptive variable suspension? Don't know much about car terms but I love cars lol. If so should I just go with the 2016 rc-f without the adaptive suspension?
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The point is that if you have plans to drop the car, be aware that no one knows how the adaptive dampers will react to springs. Then again if you go with full coilovers, then you just wasted your money rendering the adaptive suspension inop. I haven't checked if the 2017 have the same wheel gap as 15 and 16.
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Does anyone know if the adaptive dampers in stiffest setting is stiffer or softer than the '15 and '16 fixed dampers? Thanks.
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Lowering on aftermarket springs on stock shocks is for plebians. RCF deserves better.[/QUOTE]


Lambo owners lower on stock shocks with spacers too... They are "plebians" too??
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Originally Posted by kaimikazee
Lowering on aftermarket springs on stock shocks is for plebians. RCF deserves better.

Lambo owners lower on stock shocks with spacers too... They are "plebians" too??[/QUOTE]

Yes they are. Or else they would own a Ferrari
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Originally Posted by 05RollaXRS
Does anyone know if the adaptive dampers in stiffest setting is stiffer or softer than the '15 and '16 fixed dampers? Thanks.
Haven't been able to figure it out yet, since the suspension is variable, don't know if its even possible to do an apples to apples. I know on my 2015 on rough city streets, slower speed, it got brain rattling sometimes... The 2017 takes that edge off on normal, so its definitely softer there... still corners well, and it does firm up on Sport+ a bit.

Annoyingly, you can't set the suspension to firm except by using Sport+, unlike the 2017 IS/GS which has a customizable setting.
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Thanks for the reply. Just wanted to see if the variable setting gives a firmer option in the sport+ setting than the 2015, but from your response, it seems like they might be very close in the firmest settings while the '17 is more civil on bumpy roads in softer settings.

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Haven't been able to figure it out yet, since the suspension is variable, don't know if its even possible to do an apples to apples. I know on my 2015 on rough city streets, slower speed, it got brain rattling sometimes... The 2017 takes that edge off on normal, so its definitely softer there... still corners well, and it does firm up on Sport+ a bit.

Annoyingly, you can't set the suspension to firm except by using Sport+, unlike the 2017 IS/GS which has a customizable setting.
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Hard choices, either get the 2016 and lower it or get the 2017 and live with the stock system ;(
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Originally Posted by Spam89
Hey Rok, thanks for the reply. I might sound stupid but is e-suspension short term for adaptive variable suspension? Don't know much about car terms but I love cars lol. If so should I just go with the 2016 rc-f without the adaptive suspension?
"e-suspension" = electronic suspension, same as adaptive suspension, active suspension or any of 20 other terms depending on the manufacturer.
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Originally Posted by Spam89
Hard choices, either get the 2016 and lower it or get the 2017 and live with the stock system ;(
Instead of asking other people how they feel about it...
Go actually test drive a 16 and 17 and see the difference for yourself.
That's what I did and I instantly decided that an extra $10k is easily worth my comfort since it will be my new daily driver.
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Originally Posted by mjeds
"e-suspension" = electronic suspension, same as adaptive suspension, active suspension or any of 20 other terms depending on the manufacturer.
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Thanks man for the education =D

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Instead of asking other people how they feel about it...
Go actually test drive a 16 and 17 and see the difference for yourself.
That's what I did and I instantly decided that an extra $10k is easily worth my comfort since it will be my new daily driver.
I probably will soon but I am just stoked that I can't do anything suspension related with the 2017 if I decide to lower it.
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Originally Posted by Spam89
I probably will soon but I am just stoked that I can't do anything suspension related with the 2017 if I decide to lower it.
I'm not sure what you mean by "stoked".
Usually stoked = excited.

More importantly, you CAN do suspension related mods, just not this moment.
True '15 and '16 is easier to work with since less electronics and whatnot, but I'm sure manufacturer's will figure out a way to do whatever you want to '17 in due time.
You'll have a break-in period too anyways...
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Originally Posted by 05RollaXRS
Does anyone know if the adaptive dampers in stiffest setting is stiffer or softer than the '15 and '16 fixed dampers? Thanks.
Ok, in the interests of science, I drove around town today with the 2017 in Sport S+, looking for bad roads, and to the best of my recollection (turned in the 2015 3 mos ago).... the stiff setting is either the same, or possible a little stiffer than the 2015. The "normal" setting isn't soft by any stretch of the imagination, just a bit softer and takes the edge off. I definitely didn't enjoy some of the roads on stiff, particularly slow speed, and either I've softened up in the last 3 mos, or the stiff setting is stiffer than the 2015/16s.

Take that for what its worth.
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