am I missing something? can't do a power braking burnout
 

doesn't seem to matter what mode I am in, anytime I attempt a power brake burnout to spin the tires I get a " the brake and accelerator being pressed at the same time" on the dash.


am I missing something here, according to this Lexus commercial (around 30 second mark) I should be able to do it.

Did you Turn Off traction control ?? :uh:


~ Joe Z

as stated can't do it in any mode.


normal
sport
sport +
sport + expert


all with traction control off, tried both ways, press and hold and the single and double push of the button.




not my first rodeo, been doing this for 35 years.


I want to run the 1/4 mile with the car against some buddies at the local track but if I can't spin the tires to warm them up, I don't see the point.




I'm considering a line lock, but I am not really interested in modding the car if I can avoid it.

Joe its not that easy with the RCF...

mine does the same thing, traction control completely off "expert mode" and it still locks me out and then will only start in second gear.

The "pedal dance" for the ISF may work as that completely turns off all electronic nannies.

I can't remember the procedure but that should do the trick.

I don't know what you all are doing wrong. I had no issues doing smoky standstill burnouts on the drag way and parking lot (today). Sport mode-> hold trac off button until both lights are lite-> put in Manuel shift-> gas and brake simultaneously = smokey burnout on expensive pss rubber.

Only issue I have is after the burnout the system will indicate "slippery surface detected 2nd gear start only". That defeats the purpose of a burnout on the drag way if I can only take off on 2nd gear.

I think there's a bit of confusion as to what "expert mode" is...maybe Australian RCF has different traction control settings from you USDM ones due to legal issues?

In my Australian RCF, putting the car in Sport S+ and a tap of "VSC off" will enable expert mode. You can see "expert mode" on the dash with the squiggly lines, and the car warns you that pre-brake assist and vehicle assist is disabled. When you push the car hard, the car will oversteer for up to about 30 degrees before the throttle is removed. The brakes do not engage so you can still spin the car if you aren't careful enough, but by and large if you enter a corner, mash the accelerator, the car will do a drift and then straighten out. You can't do a burnout in this mode as the throttle still gets cut after a while when the car detects slippage.

Putting the car in Sports S+ mode and then holding down the VSC off button for 3 seconds will cause the squiggly lines to come on, but "expert mode" will NOT appear on the dash. This is the truly "everything off" mode and with the transmission in manual mode, I can do a burnout and drift with full abandon without any of the systems intervening.

I've tried these settings on a racetrack.

yes I am aware of this, and drifting isn't the issue.


a standing burnout is the issue.

the typical, turn off the nannies, hold the brake, hold the accelerator, feather the brake to release the rear brake resistance and allow the wheels to spin while keeping the front brakes locked, does not work on the RCF.

when you press the brake and accelerator at the same time the computer cuts throttle completely and pops an error that says "BRAKE AND ACCELERATOR PRESSED SIMULTANEOUSLY" in the info center.

what you describe I can do, hard cornering and drifting isn't an issue. the car is moving and you aren't pressing both pedals at the same time.

So why is it that Lexus made the RC-F such a nice sports car with all this power and technology but also made it "baby proof" as you would in a house with a baby but with all the safe stuff ON permanently? You got all this power and awesome stuff but it seems you can't have fun with it because it's all restricted so you don't loose control at all... they take away the power and all the fun out of the picture so you are "safe". A guy in a Civic can have more fun than on the RC-F, ok ok that was too much lol... I want to get me an RC-F when I change my IS350 F-Sport lease but I test drove an RC-F and honestly I feel more fun with the 3IS than it did with the RC-F. It felt sluggish when I floored it, at least until I picked up speed (40-50mph +), when I floor it on the 3IS I can feel the tires break loose on Sport+. Granted I only had the RC-F on Sport+ and manual (no trac off) but still felt like it was missing something and I think it's all the restrictions not allowing you to savor all that horsepower

First time I'm hearing this, sir! I'll do a video and show you soon....you're doing exactly what I'm doing but I don't get that message.

WTF?!? Are you serious? Sluggish? It probably got to 40-50mph 2 secs before your IS. Please don't make these comments on this forum, that's just looney. Maybe on your IS forum this flies...

You have to remember what Yaguchi, the chief engineer, designed this car for. He wanted a car that any driver, of any skill level, will be able to drive quick(ly), relative to their skill level. This is why we have a tiered traction control system. This is why in sports s mode, the car doesn't allow any wheel slippage but in sports s+ you have to do a little bit of opposite lock, in expert mode you can drift up to 30 degrees and then you have everything off for the true experts out there.

It's a system where the car grows with you according to what you are capable of. So if you step into the car for the first time and drive it in normal mode, you'll find it very safe, very comfortable and easy to drive. Because it was designed that way. You need to step up to the sports s+/expert modes to really get the true feel of the vehicle, particularly if you have the skill level to match.

When I'm on a winding mountain road, I put the car in sports s mode (not even s+), slalom and I still have a hoot. I know my skill level isn't quite there yet, if the car starts to oversteer I may not catch it in time so I leave the nannies on. Maybe one day I'll have the training and guts to go full Initial D. In the meantime, self-preservation kicks in way before the tyres start to give way.

Urm..yeah..
Sold my 3IS for RCF today...no comparison. Much, much more power. Much, much better acceleration.

Sport + and then hold the VSC for a full 3 seconds (not 1 second). You should get your cloud of smoke.

Sluggish? The car's a rocket. The carbon TVD will easily deliver a 4.3 0-60 or better in the hands of a competent driver.

Civic and RC F--seriously--they do not belong in the same sentence.

as stated in post #2, I have done this.


still get the error on the dash and the throttle is cut, car will not allow brake and accelerator to be pressed simultaneously.