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Truth be told, I didn't even know about the Enform service until after purchasing the car, paying for and installing LoJack. I think I will call the dealership and give them a piece of my mind. Buyer beware, I guess.
Anyhow, yes, the car has Enform, however, after one year, there is a subscription fee. Break even for me (including the first free year) is about 6.5 years. I drove my last car for 7 years (and still have it). The plan is to have this car for as long, or longer than that (as evidenced by my purchase of the 8yr/100,000 mile warranty). I guess it is safe to say that I was the finance guy's dream customer. I bought everything he pitched.
After the math, Enform or LoJack; I could have gone either way.
Anyhow, yes, the car has Enform, however, after one year, there is a subscription fee. Break even for me (including the first free year) is about 6.5 years. I drove my last car for 7 years (and still have it). The plan is to have this car for as long, or longer than that (as evidenced by my purchase of the 8yr/100,000 mile warranty). I guess it is safe to say that I was the finance guy's dream customer. I bought everything he pitched.
After the math, Enform or LoJack; I could have gone either way.
I can't believe we don't have one of these beasts.
We're the #2 selling Lexus dealer in the country.
We have 1000 cars in stock and we sell approximately 600 new Lexus per month.
I can't believe some other store has one before us.
Oh, forgot to say congrats on the new ride dude. Enjoy it to the max.
We're the #2 selling Lexus dealer in the country.
We have 1000 cars in stock and we sell approximately 600 new Lexus per month.
I can't believe some other store has one before us.
Oh, forgot to say congrats on the new ride dude. Enjoy it to the max.
I asked at the dealership why they would sell me LoJack if the same service was available through Lexus Enform. The response makes total sense. The Lexus Enform tracking is via a cellular signal. LoJack uses a satellite signal. So the chances of recovering a stolen car are higher with LoJack than with the Lexus Enform service. FYI.
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I asked at the dealership why they would sell me LoJack if the same service was available through Lexus Enform. The response makes total sense. The Lexus Enform tracking is via a cellular signal. LoJack uses a satellite signal. So the chances of recovering a stolen car are higher with LoJack than with the Lexus Enform service. FYI.
"The LoJack® product is a battery operated, stolen vehicle recovery system that helps law enforcement to track and recover your stolen vehicle. A LoJack® Unit is hidden in your vehicle by a certified technician and is registered in the LoJack database. When you file a stolen vehicle report with law enforcement and the theft is recorded in the national stolen vehicle database, law enforcement computers send a silent radio signal to your car. If your vehicle is within a LoJack coverage area, the LoJack Transceiver in your stolen vehicle can be automatically activated, allowing law enforcement to track and recover your vehicle."
http://www.lojack.com/Customer-Servi...covery/FAQs#q1
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You are correct! LoJack doesn't use satellites. Misinformation from the dealer. 
It does use radio frequencies that are probably better than trying to use cellular. However, Lexus Enform specifies the use of cellular and GPS to track cars. So, which is better? Who knows. Does having both increase the chances of recovering a stolen Lexus?
It does use radio frequencies that are probably better than trying to use cellular. However, Lexus Enform specifies the use of cellular and GPS to track cars. So, which is better? Who knows. Does having both increase the chances of recovering a stolen Lexus?
From LoJack's Website:
The LoJack® Stolen Vehicle Recovery System uses Radio Frequency (RF) technology to track and recover stolen vehicles. Because RF signals are so strong and do not require line of sight with any satellites or cell towers, the LoJack® system can track vehicles in places where other systems may not, such as when the vehicles are in garages, shipping containers or dense foliage.*
*LoJack® unit activation is contingent upon the vehicle being located within LoJack’s coverage area that spans counties across 29 states throughout the US and the District of Columbia.
The LoJack® Stolen Vehicle Recovery System uses Radio Frequency (RF) technology to track and recover stolen vehicles. Because RF signals are so strong and do not require line of sight with any satellites or cell towers, the LoJack® system can track vehicles in places where other systems may not, such as when the vehicles are in garages, shipping containers or dense foliage.*
*LoJack® unit activation is contingent upon the vehicle being located within LoJack’s coverage area that spans counties across 29 states throughout the US and the District of Columbia.
From Lexus Enform:
Stolen Vehicle Location
If you ever file a police report stating that your vehicle has been stolen, local authorities can remotely activate its tracking beacon using the vehicle's embedded cellular and GPS technology. This helps them to recover it more quickly and may minimize the amount of damage that can be incurred. Unlike some third-party services, the Stolen Vehicle Location system also works across the United States.
Stolen Vehicle Location
If you ever file a police report stating that your vehicle has been stolen, local authorities can remotely activate its tracking beacon using the vehicle's embedded cellular and GPS technology. This helps them to recover it more quickly and may minimize the amount of damage that can be incurred. Unlike some third-party services, the Stolen Vehicle Location system also works across the United States.
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You are correct! LoJack doesn't use satellites. Misinformation from the dealer. It does use radio frequencies that are probably better than trying to use cellular. However, Lexus Enform specifies the use of cellular and GPS to track cars. So, which is better? Who knows. Does having both increase the chances of recovering a stolen Lexus?
It does use radio frequencies that are probably better than trying to use cellular. However, Lexus Enform specifies the use of cellular and GPS to track cars. So, which is better? Who knows. Does having both increase the chances of recovering a stolen Lexus?