2015 Lexus RC F "Revealed" on Live Stream @ 2014 NAIAS
01-14-14, 05:54 PM
#76
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01-14-14, 06:14 PM
#78
I'm a little disappointed to hear that they're not even trying to go toe to toe with the M4. The ISF is a direct competitor to the M3, but has the reliability and refinement of a Lexus. If the new RCF isn't competing with the M4 in performance, but it is as expensive or more, then what segment will this fill?
I personally think it looks great. But I do want to see the final performance numbers and MSRP.
I personally think it looks great. But I do want to see the final performance numbers and MSRP.
01-14-14, 06:26 PM
#79
I'm a little disappointed to hear that they're not even trying to go toe to toe with the M4. The ISF is a direct competitor to the M3, but has the reliability and refinement of a Lexus. If the new RCF isn't competing with the M4 in performance, but it is as expensive or more, then what segment will this fill?
This is from the same Company and their training events that say the ES competes with the C-Class and CTS, never mind the S80, TL, Lacrosse and MKZ...
Serious btw
01-14-14, 06:52 PM
#80
Most long time IS-F owner had high hopes for this car. Because of what we read online and saw on teaser pics and videos, we all assumed that this will be the real M3/4 fighter or beater we have been dreaming Lexus would build. Our hopes were further fueled by rumors of 480ps with a relatively acceptable weight ( equal to IS-F would be fine). But these were dashed when the actual weight specs were provided. And then Lexus kept us hanging with a 450 plus hp figure. If they are not targeting the M4, is Lexus just targeting being second fiddle? I hope not..
01-14-14, 06:53 PM
#81
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Ofcourse, it is.
Lexus is not admitting because they are trying not to flatter the M3/M4 by dignifying it as a competitor. The numbers will speak for themselves. It is simple sandbagging.
Lexus claims RC-F will "far outperform the IS-F in every measurable way" rather than mentioning competitors in order to brand Lexus as a leader and not a follower. This time Lexus is going for the juggular with the RC-F.
People are speculating M4 is going to be a lot lighter without even looking at the official curb weights. Lately, the 1M coupe was claimed by BMW to have a dry weight of 3200 lbs while the rear life curb weight with all fluids turned out to be 3450 lbs.
Lexus is not admitting because they are trying not to flatter the M3/M4 by dignifying it as a competitor. The numbers will speak for themselves. It is simple sandbagging.
Lexus claims RC-F will "far outperform the IS-F in every measurable way" rather than mentioning competitors in order to brand Lexus as a leader and not a follower. This time Lexus is going for the juggular with the RC-F.
People are speculating M4 is going to be a lot lighter without even looking at the official curb weights. Lately, the 1M coupe was claimed by BMW to have a dry weight of 3200 lbs while the rear life curb weight with all fluids turned out to be 3450 lbs.
I'm a little disappointed to hear that they're not even trying to go toe to toe with the M4. The ISF is a direct competitor to the M3, but has the reliability and refinement of a Lexus. If the new RCF isn't competing with the M4 in performance, but it is as expensive or more, then what segment will this fill?
I personally think it looks great. But I do want to see the final performance numbers and MSRP.
I personally think it looks great. But I do want to see the final performance numbers and MSRP.
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01-14-14, 07:05 PM
#82
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Lexus really did a GREAT job with the RC-F. 
Looks 100x better than M4.
The proportions are perfect, looks aggressive/sporty.
It has many cool details - Rear wing, CF roof, stacked exhaust, LED lights, etc.
I'm shocked some ppl here dont like it.
Look at those REAR FENDERS
Looks 100x better than M4.
The proportions are perfect, looks aggressive/sporty.
It has many cool details - Rear wing, CF roof, stacked exhaust, LED lights, etc.
I'm shocked some ppl here dont like it.
Look at those REAR FENDERS
01-14-14, 07:09 PM
#83
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I love Lexus taking such a bold approach these last few years, I really do.
But I still can't get over that hump in the hood. It just hurts my eyes, when seen from the profile. IS-Fs have had the same hump, and the new M4 has a similar hump. I guess when you're stuffing so much hardware underneath the hood, you have to make space.
But sheesh! is it an eye sore for me. For this reason, I need a color that hides this hump the best. I guess I could only get one of these in black.
But I still can't get over that hump in the hood. It just hurts my eyes, when seen from the profile. IS-Fs have had the same hump, and the new M4 has a similar hump. I guess when you're stuffing so much hardware underneath the hood, you have to make space.
But sheesh! is it an eye sore for me. For this reason, I need a color that hides this hump the best. I guess I could only get one of these in black.
01-14-14, 08:15 PM
#84
Add the car to another over weight luxury boat coupe if the number is at ~3,900 lbs 
; Big hp won't do any good as a "driver car" to cruise around the town. I'm now interested to aim for the next 4 door family sedan IS-F which will have similar line & curve based on this RC-F body style. It's just more practical than this 2 door RC-F.
; Big hp won't do any good as a "driver car" to cruise around the town. I'm now interested to aim for the next 4 door family sedan IS-F which will have similar line & curve based on this RC-F body style. It's just more practical than this 2 door RC-F.
01-14-14, 09:15 PM
#85
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If RC-F is a "overweight luxury boat" to you then IS-F will also be an overweight boat for you since they seem to be well within 100 lbs of each other.
Add the car to another over weight luxury boat coupe if the number is at ~3,900 lbs ; Big hp won't do any good as a "driver car" to cruise around the town. I'm now interested to aim for the next 4 door family sedan IS-F which will have similar line & curve based on this RC-F body style. It's just more practical than this 2 door RC-F.
; Big hp won't do any good as a "driver car" to cruise around the town. I'm now interested to aim for the next 4 door family sedan IS-F which will have similar line & curve based on this RC-F body style. It's just more practical than this 2 door RC-F.
01-14-14, 09:22 PM
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Today's reveal has brought me back to ClubLexus! 
My friend works for Toyota and was at the show, live streaming his cell phone pix to me lol. He says it looks amazing in person. Speculation is always fun, but you guys are making a ton of assumptions without official specs. How about a little trust that Toyota will learn from the current F and ensure that the RCF will be competitive or surpassing the m4 and other competitors? Did they not already improve upon the current F and it outshines the m3 in almost all aspects?
BTW - Did anyone mention that the quad exhaust outlets now look to be connected to the muffler? Or am I seeing things? That will open up more flexible aftermarket opportunities. I'm actually interested in the offsets to see what type of wheels we'd be able to fit under those fenders.
My friend works for Toyota and was at the show, live streaming his cell phone pix to me lol. He says it looks amazing in person. Speculation is always fun, but you guys are making a ton of assumptions without official specs. How about a little trust that Toyota will learn from the current F and ensure that the RCF will be competitive or surpassing the m4 and other competitors? Did they not already improve upon the current F and it outshines the m3 in almost all aspects?
BTW - Did anyone mention that the quad exhaust outlets now look to be connected to the muffler? Or am I seeing things? That will open up more flexible aftermarket opportunities. I'm actually interested in the offsets to see what type of wheels we'd be able to fit under those fenders.
01-14-14, 09:40 PM
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Honestly.
Some of you guys are insane if you think this is ugly and or the M4 looks better the M4 looks like a typical BMW coupe where this looks like something different and unique . This car looks insane. I love EVERYTHING about it !!
What i noticed is that better pictures make the car look better. Just look at this thing !!
INSANE
Some of you guys are insane if you think this is ugly and or the M4 looks better the M4 looks like a typical BMW coupe where this looks like something different and unique . This car looks insane. I love EVERYTHING about it !!
What i noticed is that better pictures make the car look better. Just look at this thing !!
INSANE
01-15-14, 12:22 AM
#88
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Ofcourse, it is.
Lexus is not admitting because they are trying not to flatter the M3/M4 by dignifying it as a competitor. The numbers will speak for themselves. It is simple sandbagging.
Lexus claims RC-F will "far outperform the IS-F in every measurable way" rather than mentioning competitors in order to brand Lexus as a leader and not a follower. This time Lexus is going for the juggular with the RC-F.
People are speculating M4 is going to be a lot lighter without even looking at the official curb weights. Lately, the 1M coupe was claimed by BMW to have a dry weight of 3200 lbs while the rear life curb weight with all fluids turned out to be 3450 lbs.
Lexus is not admitting because they are trying not to flatter the M3/M4 by dignifying it as a competitor. The numbers will speak for themselves. It is simple sandbagging.
Lexus claims RC-F will "far outperform the IS-F in every measurable way" rather than mentioning competitors in order to brand Lexus as a leader and not a follower. This time Lexus is going for the juggular with the RC-F.
People are speculating M4 is going to be a lot lighter without even looking at the official curb weights. Lately, the 1M coupe was claimed by BMW to have a dry weight of 3200 lbs while the rear life curb weight with all fluids turned out to be 3450 lbs.
Honestly, the RC-F will probably crush the M4 on the track and be far more reliable and less a PITA to maintain.
It's just the Japanese way of not trying to humiliate the opposition too openly. Besides, it won't do to openly embarrass your new partner ( BMW-Toyota partnership).
01-15-14, 12:29 AM
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So if you want to believe your picture with an M3 be our guest.
