Help – tire change turned my car into a carnival ride!!!I have the suspicion maybe he
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Help – tire change turned my car into a carnival ride!!!I have the suspicion maybe he
2010 IS250 with only 20,000 miles on it in great shape. When a tire needed to be replaced, I noticed the age date on the tires and they were so old I was concerned I could get a blowout. So I go to a good solid place to get new tires. They put Michelin tires on there that cost me like $1000 and now I can feel every bump in the road I can feel it through my spine coming through the steering wheel and I think the seats but I can literally feel every tiny stone in the road.
Appointment tomorrow with the car guy who's being very cooperative but to be honest this happened once before and he replaced the tires and there's the same problem. He says that he is doing road force balancing (after some reading, I asked).
I have the suspicion maybe he put a sportier tire on there? At one point he said something about it really being a sports car or something and I wonder if maybe I had like a touring tire on there before and this tire is I don't know lower profile or something. I really don't know what I'm talking about so I would very much appreciate anybody who would like to chime in. This is definitely the tires or the way they were installed, because the car was driving smoothly and beautifully with the old tires
Appointment tomorrow with the car guy who's being very cooperative but to be honest this happened once before and he replaced the tires and there's the same problem. He says that he is doing road force balancing (after some reading, I asked).
I have the suspicion maybe he put a sportier tire on there? At one point he said something about it really being a sports car or something and I wonder if maybe I had like a touring tire on there before and this tire is I don't know lower profile or something. I really don't know what I'm talking about so I would very much appreciate anybody who would like to chime in. This is definitely the tires or the way they were installed, because the car was driving smoothly and beautifully with the old tires
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Welcome to the forum. Lot's of GREAT information here. Your issue could be too much air pressure. A more aggressive tire might give you a little more road feel, but not to the degree you describe. Assume you changed all four tires? $250 per tire is not really excessive. Your were wise to change older tires, they can start to crack and as you surmised cause a blow out. What model Michelins did you have installed? Stock size I assume?
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Thank you for responding – yes I think they are stock size. Certainly nothing is altered on the car and I'm looking at the paperwork right now.
The set that's on there now is Michelin. 2ea 225/40 ZR 18, and 2ea 255/40 ZR 18, with all four changed at once. I just noticed on the paperwork it looks like they put sport tires on there (don't sport tires provided noisier ride then I touring tire?). It should be noted that I specifically asked them to put the quietest tires they could find on there (I gave them no other specs but I have a special problem with sound and the car was completely quiet before we changed tires).
The set that's on there now is Michelin. 2ea 225/40 ZR 18, and 2ea 255/40 ZR 18, with all four changed at once. I just noticed on the paperwork it looks like they put sport tires on there (don't sport tires provided noisier ride then I touring tire?). It should be noted that I specifically asked them to put the quietest tires they could find on there (I gave them no other specs but I have a special problem with sound and the car was completely quiet before we changed tires).
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I should note that the road is bumpy enough that I actually believe the metal is twisting (this go-round I've had these tires on for months but I've been miserable) and my passenger door is not quite fitting the same. I can hear a tiny bit of air coming through the closed window.
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Welcome to the forum. Lot's of GREAT information here. Your issue could be too much air pressure. A more aggressive tire might give you a little more road feel, but not to the degree you describe. Assume you changed all four tires? $250 per tire is not really excessive. Your were wise to change older tires, they can start to crack and as you surmised cause a blow out. What model Michelins did you have installed? Stock size I assume?
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My experience with Continental tires was terrible. There is a thread about it if anyone is interested. I will never buy anything made by Continental again in my lifetime, NEVER But, right now everyone is just guessing until the OP tells us her model of tire. And making a blanket statement about Michelin tires is not really constructive. And, in my experience, what DMV350 is saying is simply not true.
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^^^^Don't want to start an argument here, but I did not make a blanket statement about Continental, I referenced a thread that maybe you should read. It gives reasons why I posted my comments. Can you post the negative links to what "some people have complained"?
My links are here:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...xtreme-dw.html
and what I replaced them with:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...-position.html
I am "some people" and have had positive experience with Michelins.
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My links are here:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...xtreme-dw.html
and what I replaced them with:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...-position.html
I am "some people" and have had positive experience with Michelins.
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Coming from some Sumitomo HTR's. I ran them to the recommended spec psi value 35F/38R for an AWD. They where pretty comfortable. Now they I have the Michellin Pilot Sport A/S 3+. I have found that running them 35 psi all around gives me better ride quality, and feels more neutral. Before having them to the stock specs the car felt very harsh, and too twitchy.
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They are Michelin Pilot sport A/S 3
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Not clear if you are saying that a Z rating is too much or what but I just can't quite understand what you're saying there.
QUOTE=kitabel;10109139]Let me explain my remark.
The speed rating is partially determined by the chemical formula of the rubber (which always includes petroleum distillates, sulfur, carbon black, and other things they won't tell you).
The tire is designed to have maximum grip near it's speed rating, and is colder than its efficient temperature at normal cruising speed. Watch F1 and Indy cars warming up by zig-zagging across the track to torue the sidewalls, and instantly crashing if the tires are cold at the first turn.
For most people, a tire rated "H" (130 mph maximum) is all you'll ever need.
Summary: a "Z" rated tire has less traction than an "H" rated tire (other factors omitted) at speeds up to 130 mph.[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=kitabel;10109139]Let me explain my remark.
The speed rating is partially determined by the chemical formula of the rubber (which always includes petroleum distillates, sulfur, carbon black, and other things they won't tell you).
The tire is designed to have maximum grip near it's speed rating, and is colder than its efficient temperature at normal cruising speed. Watch F1 and Indy cars warming up by zig-zagging across the track to torue the sidewalls, and instantly crashing if the tires are cold at the first turn.
For most people, a tire rated "H" (130 mph maximum) is all you'll ever need.
Summary: a "Z" rated tire has less traction than an "H" rated tire (other factors omitted) at speeds up to 130 mph.[/QUOTE]
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The A/S 3 is a Hi Performance All Season tire.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Sport+A%2FS+3+%28H-+or+V-Speed+Rated%29
It is rated very well at Tire Rack. I think your installer made a good choice.
Have you checked air pressure?
Lou
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Sport+A%2FS+3+%28H-+or+V-Speed+Rated%29
It is rated very well at Tire Rack. I think your installer made a good choice.
Have you checked air pressure?
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No - what should my air pressure be?
Why, would he have put a Z rated tires on there? I'm unlikely to hit 149 mph. I'd find it hard to believe my car goes that fast.
if quiet was the priority and Z tires were not already on there, why would he have put them on there, and why would that never have been discussed? I assumed he would put a tire that was virtually equivalent on the car.
The A/S 3 is a Hi Performance All Season tire.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...Speed+Rated%29
It is rated very well at Tire Rack. I think your installer made a good choice.
Have you checked air pressure?
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https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...Speed+Rated%29
It is rated very well at Tire Rack. I think your installer made a good choice.
Have you checked air pressure?
Lou