Need More NA power before I go NA-T
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Need More NA power before I go NA-T
Am just looking for a little more NA power that Is noticeable and can actually feel I will be doing the egr block off plate as well as re modifying my air box unit along with a heat shield so only cold air is being fed in. Also wanted to know is my megan exhaust holding me back ?
Last edited by boostinsc; 01-22-15 at 09:47 PM.
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Bottom line:
Forget messing with the engine. Keep the stock airbox and throw in a K&N or something similar there. Just keep it fully tuned up with synthetic oil.
The only other attainable ways to have better performance (not more horsepower) while still NA are to:
-- Do a 5-speed manual swap
-- Keep your 4.27 rear end ratio (which gives the feeling of very short gearing with a 5-speed)
-- Install an LSD
-- Replace any worn suspension bushings, LCA's, etc.
-- Put in a good Supra style suspension that emphasizes road compliance and little body roll
-- Install a bigger SC style rear sway bar or a TT rear sway bar
-- Lance Alignment
-- 17x8 and 17x9.5 rims with Supra TT stock tire sizing of 235/45-17 front and 255/40-17 rear to stay close to the SC300 factory rolling diameter while greatly increasing tread contact area for handling
-- LS400 front brakes
A lot of the above things will be greatly needed when you have boost to play with. The only relevant change with a turbocharged engine would be the need for a 3.92, 3.77 or 3.26 rear end ratio (although to add 4.08 was the factory ratio for all 1JZGTE R154 5-speed Soarers).
If you're planning on boost sooner rather than later you should focus on those goals and not worry about your NA engine power.
Forget messing with the engine. Keep the stock airbox and throw in a K&N or something similar there. Just keep it fully tuned up with synthetic oil.
The only other attainable ways to have better performance (not more horsepower) while still NA are to:
-- Do a 5-speed manual swap
-- Keep your 4.27 rear end ratio (which gives the feeling of very short gearing with a 5-speed)
-- Install an LSD
-- Replace any worn suspension bushings, LCA's, etc.
-- Put in a good Supra style suspension that emphasizes road compliance and little body roll
-- Install a bigger SC style rear sway bar or a TT rear sway bar
-- Lance Alignment
-- 17x8 and 17x9.5 rims with Supra TT stock tire sizing of 235/45-17 front and 255/40-17 rear to stay close to the SC300 factory rolling diameter while greatly increasing tread contact area for handling
-- LS400 front brakes
A lot of the above things will be greatly needed when you have boost to play with. The only relevant change with a turbocharged engine would be the need for a 3.92, 3.77 or 3.26 rear end ratio (although to add 4.08 was the factory ratio for all 1JZGTE R154 5-speed Soarers).
If you're planning on boost sooner rather than later you should focus on those goals and not worry about your NA engine power.
Last edited by KahnBB6; 01-23-15 at 01:48 AM. Reason: Minor clarification and correction to TT tire size info compared to SC300 stock OD
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Thanks Kahn i have an HKS filter in the airbox but as you know the stock airbox restricts airflow to the so by opening the snorkel or running a intake underneath to the bumper will be greatly increasing the air flow into the engine making the car breathe better or so I think and the only factory wheels that is possible to run those OEM size is Twin turbo Supra wheels. supra style suspension? Is tanabe eibachs or espellr fall under that category
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boostinsc -- Yes, you can just swap on 93-98 Supra MKIV TT wheels. Direct fit. They also conveniently clear 95-00 LS400 front brake calipers or TT brakes. For a spare tire you'd have to source a 93-98 TT spare or a rare SC430 spare (some of those cars were sold without Run-Flat tires) which is the same thing.
t2d2 -- I have forgotten my conversion math since it's been a while but I believe you are correct about the stock SC300 tire diameter. What was surprising to me is that when I went to compare factory Supra TT tire size OD's with the SC's factory tire OD's I found them to be very close.
Factory TT tires are indeed 235/45-17 front and 255/40-17 rear but I'm not sure why they did it that way. Perhaps to combat oversteer? As you say it certainly isn't an exact match for stock OD but it's very close if not a smidgen better for NA acceleration.
t2d2 -- I have forgotten my conversion math since it's been a while but I believe you are correct about the stock SC300 tire diameter. What was surprising to me is that when I went to compare factory Supra TT tire size OD's with the SC's factory tire OD's I found them to be very close.
Factory TT tires are indeed 235/45-17 front and 255/40-17 rear but I'm not sure why they did it that way. Perhaps to combat oversteer? As you say it certainly isn't an exact match for stock OD but it's very close if not a smidgen better for NA acceleration.
Last edited by KahnBB6; 01-23-15 at 01:49 AM.
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What was surprising to me is that when I went to compare factory Supra TT tire size OD's with the SC's factory tire OD's I found them to be very close.
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I wouldn't consider 0.4" and 0.7" discrepancy particularly close, when 0.2" is the max tolerance based on suggestions I was able to find not too long ago. I imagine the smaller diameter would help with acceleration and maybe with handling, but that means everyone with Supra sized tires on their SC is running around with whacky speedo and ABS. Which could perhaps explain why there's such a split in views on the effectiveness of the SC's ABS system. Shorter tire life, as well.
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[I]Recently Bought this from THMotorsports and will be installing soon when it gets warmer here in NY is freezing temps
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pretty sure you can't, need tt sway bar mounts or more iirc.
j/w, but i have been reading a lot(ish) about BFI's being a better alt to am intakes. is there any reason why you chose the one you did? is that a tt stock intake? did you pick it for your up-and-coming(in time) na-t setup?
j/w, but i have been reading a lot(ish) about BFI's being a better alt to am intakes. is there any reason why you chose the one you did? is that a tt stock intake? did you pick it for your up-and-coming(in time) na-t setup?
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Why? Why do you need more NA power before turbo? There's literally no point as the price to results are not worth it. Don't worry about doing any kind of engine work because MAYBE you'll get 5-10 hp max from NA upgrades.
Just go ahead and turbo man, it's so worth it and these jz's love boost! Save yourself the headache of trying to squeeze power out and start the turbo build!!!
GL
Just go ahead and turbo man, it's so worth it and these jz's love boost! Save yourself the headache of trying to squeeze power out and start the turbo build!!!
GL