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Old 03-07-11, 06:36 PM
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You can't just stick pins 1 and 2 from the ebrake across the relay in parallel like I said to start with because that will just make the relay hot all the time. That was my fault. Brain fart.
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Now, what may screw all this up is that you are already somehow telling the ecu that the car is in park, no? So you will probably get the old transmission selector switch malfunction code if you dont break the existing neutral switch fix you already have in place.
i currently just have the trans selector plug bridged (to show PARK) with a wire. so i'll just pull it out.
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That should do it PROVIDED the ebrake switch is normally open. Of course it will be normally closed to screw with our master plan.
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My schematics say the ebrake switch is normally open, so this should work...
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Originally Posted by stockhatch
That should do it PROVIDED the ebrake switch is normally open. Of course it will be normally closed to screw with our master plan.
i think this means it's normally open. what do you think?
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boom.

i'll wire this up tomorrow and post the results.

all the n00bs are going to salivate over this valuable info!
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Yeah that should be good. The only other thing I can see being an issue is whether the ebrake circuit can power a standard relay, or if a low power relay will have to be sourced. That I have no idea about. I do cave man electronics stuff, and I know there are some really smart EE type peeps in here that can refine this plan.
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Good job to the both of you guys. I wonder if this in theory will work for a 98+400 also.
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it will work, but the diagrams will be a little different.
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Originally Posted by stockhatch
Yeah that should be good. The only other thing I can see being an issue is whether the ebrake circuit can power a standard relay, or if a low power relay will have to be sourced. That I have no idea about. I do cave man electronics stuff, and I know there are some really smart EE type peeps in here that can refine this plan.
the e-brake switch just grounds a normal 12v circuit to power the BRAKE light on the cluster, so it shouldn't require a high sensitivity relay.
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stockhatch, i found an error in our cunning plan.

the "to dash light" 12v that is supposed to power pin 85 on the relay when the e-brake is pulled up... i do not know where to get that from. inside the cluster, there is a common 12v, and the different grounds trigger the lights. so the e-brake ground triggers the BRAKE light to light up inside the cluster.

so i think this plan may be screwed.

i'm going to let you think about this one, because my brain hurts.
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Should still work. Putting the relay inline with the ebrake ground still allows power to flow and energize the coil.
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Unplug the ebrake switch and put a meter across the pins on it with key on. See if you don't get 12v.
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I am not an expert on diodes, but from what I gather, a signal diode can only pass around 100mA of current. I think a standard auto relay needs around 200mA to energize the coil...This is where a qualified EE could really help.
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Maybe something like this?

http://www.rapidonline.com/1/1/1599-...y-spdt-1a.html


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