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Old 02-04-10, 07:01 PM
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Default Searched TO DEATH: 1J + Supra/chaser R154 = Which shifter???

Ugh, I'm sorry if this is annoying to you guys. I've been searching the last week trying to nail to down EXACTLY what combination of parts I need to make a JDM Supra/Chaser R154 tranny have it's shifter come up in the proper centered spot in a 1995 SC300's shift boot.

First off, from what pictures I can find, I'm going to have to guess that an R154 transmission is physically LONGER than a W58 from the bellhousing to the spot where the shifter assembly cover (aluminum cover with six bolts) bolts on. Forgive me for stealing photos, but hopefully this helps. Please notice where the circular hole that the shiftlever would stick up out of (and into the car) is in relationship to the shifter cover assembly.

W58 from a 92-94 SC300: Notice that the lever hole is completely BEHIND the 6 mounting holes for the aluminum cover:



Next is a JDM Supra MKIII R154 trans that came on the back of a 1JZ swap. Notice how the the lever hole is completely IN FRONT of the last set of mounting bolts for the aluminum cover:



Lastly, this is a pic from Shern's W58 to R154 conversion thread. Notice how the shifter hole sits about an inch beyond (or center along) the last two mounting bolts for the cover:




I'm confused because in his thread he mentions that those Toyota parts (the aluminum cover and lever) put the shifter in the exact same place as the original W58 on the SC300, but judging from this picture below, it looks like it's actually not far enough back...



Maybe Shern can chime in... does this setup actually place the shifter correctly? From the pic it looks like the shift lever would be pushed up by the radio...

Thanks for the help!
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One more thing!

Does anyone know what vehicles that this tranny with the funky shifter assembly came off of?



It's advertised as the factory 5spd behind one of those 1JZ swaps on Ebay.

Does anyone know if the other style shifter parts below will bolt in place of it, or if they are necessary for this specific type of trans?

Old 02-04-10, 07:59 PM
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with the Supra R154 w/ extension mod, yes it does sit slightly more forward, but i think there is also a modded shifter to go with it that puts it slightly further back to get that extra few inches. It had a few extra bends to put it in the stock shifter location

For the second pic, that is a late model R154 with an external shift linkage. This setup is slightly more desirable because there are no shifter mods required to make it fit. Later model Soarers and chasers had this kind of shifter.
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Originally Posted by StiCk3
with the Supra R154 w/ extension mod, yes it does sit slightly more forward
Man, that's what I thought from looking at the pictures. Then Shern posted the picture measuring from bellhousing to shifter center and both SC300 W58 and the Supra R154 with Soarer extension were almost exactly 27" I still can't figure out what I'm missing... the pic of the trans's side by side makes the W58 look OBVIOUSLY longer by at least an inch or more..

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what about the R154 off the 7M MK3?
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With shern r154 you need a swan shifter to get it in the right location. I rather just get it cut and rewelded in the right location so I can run a short shifter later. Just my two cents.
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Originally Posted by jwin
With shern r154 you need a swan shifter to get it in the right location. I rather just get it cut and rewelded in the right location so I can run a short shifter later. Just my two cents.

You need the swan shifter that came on the 93-96 SC R154 tranny it sets the shifter back around 2" SO IT CLEARS THE RADIO AND ALL GEARS ARE AVAILABLE.
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I know of 4 shifters for the R154


Mk3 Supra MA70/JZA70




Early Soarer JZZ30 (and JZX?) .



which uses a swan-neck lever

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Late Soarer JZZ30




Late JZX




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the last picture looks like someone bolted the w55 shifter from an IS to an r154. IS is the only car I've ever seen that had that funky shifter plate. Late JZX have the same exact tripod r154 as the late soarer, early JZX had the same swan type deal as the soarer.
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Originally Posted by Vrank
The last picture looks like someone bolted the W55 shifter from an IS to an R154. IS is the only car I've ever seen that had that funky shifter plate. Late JZX have the same exact tripod R154 as the late Soarer, Early JZX had the same swan type deal as the Soarer.
Checked in the EPC. The type in the last pic is from a JZX110 (Mark II or Verossa), so it's a really late JZX.

As you say, the JZX90 and JZX100 mirrored the Soarer.

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Default confused with shiftier extexsion.

Hello
I am going to put 2jzgte with w58 in jzx100 but my shiftier extension is too long from the body so can any one tell me which car extension it's.

Thanks.
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