Let's just clarify the w58 tranny and shifter issue right here in this thread.
02-06-11, 12:34 PM
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There are clutches available that can hold that much, but what exactly are you asking though; are you concerned about the W58 or your clutch? A clutch that grabs and holds 100% is definitely going to stress your W58 more.
02-06-11, 03:19 PM
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ok i just wanted to clarify because i now have ANOTHER SC with the 95+ 5spd swap done...
the mk4 supra W58 and the 95+ SC300 W58 have different shifter tripods and different shifters.
THE MK4 SUPRA SHIFTER TRIPOD IS 1/2" LONGER THAN THE 95+ SC300 SHIFTER TRIPOD.
the mk4 supra shifter also has a slight tilt to the left, so account for the slight tilt in the center console on the supras.
if you use the mk4 shifter tripod the shifter will be very close to touching the shifter boot surround (plastic). mine can actually hit the plastic if i shift hard enough.
the sc300 tripod sits the shifter 1/2" farther forward so it is actually in the center of the shifter boot area and does not hit anything.
THIS IS ONLY FOR THE W58s (mk4 supra NA, and 95+ sc300) that have the external shifter tripod. this is 100% correct. I had both the tripods and shifters for the mk4 and 95+ sc300 sitting next to eachother, but forgot to take a picture. i owned both of them and verified this.
the mk4 supra W58 and the 95+ SC300 W58 have different shifter tripods and different shifters.
THE MK4 SUPRA SHIFTER TRIPOD IS 1/2" LONGER THAN THE 95+ SC300 SHIFTER TRIPOD.
the mk4 supra shifter also has a slight tilt to the left, so account for the slight tilt in the center console on the supras.
if you use the mk4 shifter tripod the shifter will be very close to touching the shifter boot surround (plastic). mine can actually hit the plastic if i shift hard enough.
the sc300 tripod sits the shifter 1/2" farther forward so it is actually in the center of the shifter boot area and does not hit anything.
THIS IS ONLY FOR THE W58s (mk4 supra NA, and 95+ sc300) that have the external shifter tripod. this is 100% correct. I had both the tripods and shifters for the mk4 and 95+ sc300 sitting next to eachother, but forgot to take a picture. i owned both of them and verified this.
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03-27-11, 12:50 PM
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Another bump (It's better than starting a new thread, right? 
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Can someone please clarify what the deal is when using a MKIV Supra W58 in a 92 - 94 SC (or soarer in my case)? From the bits and pieces of information I've collected so far it sounds like it'll either:
A) Sit perfectly
B) Sit too far back
C) Will require a sizeable chuck of centre console cut out
Can anyone tell me which it'll be once and for all?
I want to find the simplest way of doing the swap, short of sourcing a 92-94 SC300 W58 as they just don't exist over here
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Thanks
).Can someone please clarify what the deal is when using a MKIV Supra W58 in a 92 - 94 SC (or soarer in my case)? From the bits and pieces of information I've collected so far it sounds like it'll either:
A) Sit perfectly
B) Sit too far back
C) Will require a sizeable chuck of centre console cut out
Can anyone tell me which it'll be once and for all?
I want to find the simplest way of doing the swap, short of sourcing a 92-94 SC300 W58 as they just don't exist over here
.Thanks
04-03-11, 08:13 PM
#20
i have a w58 just sitting in my garage!!!! if the pond between us and england wasnt so dang huge ide sell you it cheap!!! i have a flywheel clutch and driveshaft too!! im in the prosses of doing a r154 swap so i have everything you need for a w58, including an act extreme pressure plate and 6 puck disk!!! well not for long i just put some stuff on ebay but they are taking like 40 bux from me!! ugg 
and i cant post on the classifieds here for some reason.
and i cant post on the classifieds here for some reason.
04-08-11, 08:22 PM
#23
ok i just wanted to clarify because i now have ANOTHER SC with the 95+ 5spd swap done...
the mk4 supra W58 and the 95+ SC300 W58 have different shifter tripods and different shifters.
THE MK4 SUPRA SHIFTER TRIPOD IS 1/2" LONGER THAN THE 95+ SC300 SHIFTER TRIPOD.
the mk4 supra shifter also has a slight tilt to the left, so account for the slight tilt in the center console on the supras.
if you use the mk4 shifter tripod the shifter will be very close to touching the shifter boot surround (plastic). mine can actually hit the plastic if i shift hard enough.
the sc300 tripod sits the shifter 1/2" farther forward so it is actually in the center of the shifter boot area and does not hit anything.
THIS IS ONLY FOR THE W58s (mk4 supra NA, and 95+ sc300) that have the external shifter tripod. this is 100% correct. I had both the tripods and shifters for the mk4 and 95+ sc300 sitting next to eachother, but forgot to take a picture. i owned both of them and verified this.
the mk4 supra W58 and the 95+ SC300 W58 have different shifter tripods and different shifters.
THE MK4 SUPRA SHIFTER TRIPOD IS 1/2" LONGER THAN THE 95+ SC300 SHIFTER TRIPOD.
the mk4 supra shifter also has a slight tilt to the left, so account for the slight tilt in the center console on the supras.
if you use the mk4 shifter tripod the shifter will be very close to touching the shifter boot surround (plastic). mine can actually hit the plastic if i shift hard enough.
the sc300 tripod sits the shifter 1/2" farther forward so it is actually in the center of the shifter boot area and does not hit anything.
THIS IS ONLY FOR THE W58s (mk4 supra NA, and 95+ sc300) that have the external shifter tripod. this is 100% correct. I had both the tripods and shifters for the mk4 and 95+ sc300 sitting next to eachother, but forgot to take a picture. i owned both of them and verified this.
04-09-11, 07:14 AM
#24
I have a 97 sc300 auto that I'm planning to take to the shop to get it switched over to manual.
Currently this is what I have:
w58 from 93 sc300, bellhousing, brake and clutch pedals, slave cylinder with steel braided line, drive shaft, shift boot....i don't have a clutch yet but i can get that from the local store since i'm just getting stock anyways
what else am i missing? manual ecu? master cylinder? flywheel? anything else?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Currently this is what I have:
w58 from 93 sc300, bellhousing, brake and clutch pedals, slave cylinder with steel braided line, drive shaft, shift boot....i don't have a clutch yet but i can get that from the local store since i'm just getting stock anyways
what else am i missing? manual ecu? master cylinder? flywheel? anything else?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
04-09-11, 01:37 PM
#25
ok i just wanted to clarify because i now have ANOTHER SC with the 95+ 5spd swap done...
the mk4 supra W58 and the 95+ SC300 W58 have different shifter tripods and different shifters.
THE MK4 SUPRA SHIFTER TRIPOD IS 1/2" LONGER THAN THE 95+ SC300 SHIFTER TRIPOD.
the mk4 supra shifter also has a slight tilt to the left, so account for the slight tilt in the center console on the supras.
if you use the mk4 shifter tripod the shifter will be very close to touching the shifter boot surround (plastic). mine can actually hit the plastic if i shift hard enough.
the sc300 tripod sits the shifter 1/2" farther forward so it is actually in the center of the shifter boot area and does not hit anything.
THIS IS ONLY FOR THE W58s (mk4 supra NA, and 95+ sc300) that have the external shifter tripod. this is 100% correct. I had both the tripods and shifters for the mk4 and 95+ sc300 sitting next to eachother, but forgot to take a picture. i owned both of them and verified this.
the mk4 supra W58 and the 95+ SC300 W58 have different shifter tripods and different shifters.
THE MK4 SUPRA SHIFTER TRIPOD IS 1/2" LONGER THAN THE 95+ SC300 SHIFTER TRIPOD.
the mk4 supra shifter also has a slight tilt to the left, so account for the slight tilt in the center console on the supras.
if you use the mk4 shifter tripod the shifter will be very close to touching the shifter boot surround (plastic). mine can actually hit the plastic if i shift hard enough.
the sc300 tripod sits the shifter 1/2" farther forward so it is actually in the center of the shifter boot area and does not hit anything.
THIS IS ONLY FOR THE W58s (mk4 supra NA, and 95+ sc300) that have the external shifter tripod. this is 100% correct. I had both the tripods and shifters for the mk4 and 95+ sc300 sitting next to eachother, but forgot to take a picture. i owned both of them and verified this.
04-10-11, 08:51 AM
#26
People talk about the W58 as if it's made out of glass. Don't believe the hype. The W58 has been proven time and again for taking tons of abuse in the sub 400hp range.
I just installed a stage 4 puck'd competition clutch with my W58. I had my W58 internals inspected for wear before installation and I used redline mt-90 fluid in the trans.
500 miles and so far the W58 shifts and feels just as good as the Soarer R154 it replaced.
If you have no idea as to what condition your W58 is in , internally and you install some heavy duty clutch with the W58. Then your taking a chance. That is why I had my W58 checked internally by a manual transmission builder. He said it showed no signs of wear internally. That's pretty good for a 15yr old W58 transmission!
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04-10-11, 11:20 AM
#28
I really wish you had taken pics. This is the only time I've ever heard of there being any difference in sc300/supra W58 shifter setups.
The shifter itself can definitely be installed 180degree opposite, but I've never seen one tilted either way??
The shifter itself can definitely be installed 180degree opposite, but I've never seen one tilted either way??
04-10-11, 12:23 PM
#29
I also find this shifter interesting as I've only seen shorter straight shifters for this transmission.
You can't just use an earlier model swan neck shifter for the 'top loader' W58 either because it has a small ball at the bottom whereas the 95+ sc300 shifters have a bolt that goes through the bottom of the shifter to hold it into the bracket.
sp what shifter is this exactly??
You can't just use an earlier model swan neck shifter for the 'top loader' W58 either because it has a small ball at the bottom whereas the 95+ sc300 shifters have a bolt that goes through the bottom of the shifter to hold it into the bracket.
sp what shifter is this exactly??
