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Old 09-18-09, 06:43 AM
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Just curious, but wouldn't you be able to make that kind of power with the stock twins and and and AEM EMS with a good tune?
Old 09-18-09, 10:02 PM
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Old 09-19-09, 06:31 AM
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Old 09-19-09, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TURBO819
I am hoping to make a reliable 400RWHP to 425RWHP with the Stock ECU. I am going to start on this project next week or maybe in two weeks
Waste of money for such little hp, you could've done more on stock twins. GT35 is too small to really be of use on a 3liter, its meant for a 2liter.
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Originally Posted by ziptied
Waste of money for such little hp, you could've done more on stock twins. GT35 is too small to really be of use on a 3liter, its meant for a 2liter.
If I were you, I wouldn't post anything else until you have a clue as to what you're talking about. There are plenty of 35Rs on 3.0 and 3.4s that absolutely love that thing, especially for road racing.

Turbo819:

The problem with the FIC is the same with every other piggyback. The closed loop/open loop transition and appropriate fueling for both. The only real way to get everything right performance wise is to unplug the narrowband 02, which throws it into closed loop. With the FIC you can pull timing, but not add, it also has 02 skew and MAF tables. I only know of one person to this day that has successfully gotten everything perfect by altering 02 skew, and it's Ardmore on SF (Using MAP ECU 2), and it took him forever to get his ECU to relearn everything the way he wanted. But IDK of anyone else that has done this on any system with altering the MAF input/output and clamp voltages, MAP ECU 1/2, E-MANAGE, FIC, SAFC, etc. The IS guys have a horrilbe time with the FIC by trying to retain all the stock 02 sensors and keep the fueling the way the want it, the ECU will relearn it over time, but again this isn't an SC300 ECU, but not much different. Anyway there's some food for though, hope that helped.

-Jon

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Old 09-21-09, 12:50 AM
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I dynoed my VVTi SC 2 days ago, and even though i was only able to get 370 whp (wastegate took a dump) but the power band was sweet, it had a smooth curve that kept on rising all the way to 6500 RPM. So this setup definitely has a lot of potential, especially if you're looking for drivability and response, and it surely isn't a "waste of money"....
Old 09-21-09, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by hmhatch
Just curious, but wouldn't you be able to make that kind of power with the stock twins and and and AEM EMS with a good tune?
Yes I am sure it can and was done. But I did not want to have the stock twin pushed to there limiters for the sake of power with no concerns about/for reliability. Some say that (JDM) Twins are made of ceramic some say steel. Another option was to use/swap USDM Twins. I read a lot about the GT3582 and felt that it would fit my needs in every way so I took a chance on it

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Old 09-21-09, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ziptied
Waste of money for such little hp, you could've done more on stock twins. GT35 is too small to really be of use on a 3liter, its meant for a 2liter.
For me. It's all about reliability. GT3582R size is perfect for individuals that want response of the stock twins and more power. I am not looking for a LAG MONSTER or BIG POWER
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Originally Posted by 2jzlex
If I were you, I wouldn't post anything else until you have a clue as to what you're talking about. There are plenty of 35Rs on 3.0 and 3.4s that absolutely love that thing, especially for road racing.

Turbo819:

The problem with the FIC is the same with every other piggyback. The closed loop/open loop transition and appropriate fueling for both. The only real way to get everything right performance wise is to unplug the narrowband 02, which throws it into closed loop. With the FIC you can pull timing, but not add, it also has 02 skew and MAF tables. I only know of one person to this day that has successfully gotten everything perfect by altering 02 skew, and it's Ardmore on SF (Using MAP ECU 2), and it took him forever to get his ECU to relearn everything the way he wanted. But IDK of anyone else that has done this on any system with altering the MAF input/output and clamp voltages, MAP ECU 1/2, E-MANAGE, FIC, SAFC, etc. The IS guys have a horrilbe time with the FIC by trying to retain all the stock 02 sensors and keep the fueling the way the want it, the ECU will relearn it over time, but again this isn't an SC300 ECU, but not much different. Anyway there's some food for though, hope that helped.

-Jon
-Jon. Thanks for the INFO. I will check SF (Ardmore) Unless you have that link???
Old 09-21-09, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by hmhatch
Just curious, but wouldn't you be able to make that kind of power with the stock twins and and and AEM EMS with a good tune?
possibly but you will be out of the turbos efficiency range. I have my 1jz with stock twins on AEM EMS running at 382HP/380TQ.
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I'm curious! Which ones Wastegate will you buy? I'm looking for GT35R on my 1jz-gte.

My friend has a 2jz-gte (non-vvti) and he uses a single GT3782R in Twin Scroll!! very responsive turbo!!! 409whp at 2000~2500RPM 19PSI a Real Beast! I don't remember how much Torque he produces
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Originally Posted by WhitSoarer
I'm curious! Which ones Wastegate will you buy? I'm looking for GT35R on my 1jz-gte.

My friend has a 2jz-gte (non-vvti) and he uses a single GT3782R in Twin Scroll!! very responsive turbo!!! 409whp at 2000~2500RPM 19PSI a Real Beast! I don't remember how much Torque he produces
I am waiting on this Wastegate right now http://www.tialsport.com/prod_wg_44.htm
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Old 09-21-09, 03:19 PM
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http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=513049

You may have to have an account to view it. My previous name on there was 2jzlex, then changed to Adr3naline.
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Originally Posted by 2jzlex
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=513049

You may have to have an account to view it. My previous name on there was 2jzlex, then changed to Adr3naline.
Thanks again. I have an account over there. I guess it's time to do some reading
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Originally Posted by TURBO819
Thanks again. I have an account over there. I guess it's time to do some reading
No problem, it's all about the MAP ECU unit. But the principle behind it is more or less the same for any other piggyback on the 2jz.

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