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SC400 Turbo Manifolds that keep the AC and PS?
05-11-07, 08:05 PM
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Eric-
You are doing the Toyota/Lexus community such a favor with your commitment to high-level performance with the V8.
These manifolds are fantastic in their design. In particular, the driver's side manifold is a work of art given the space constraints.
I only hope that, we, the members of the community can share in your passion and do our part to support your enthusiastic efforts by swapping v160's and running turbo set ups on our own V8's.
You are doing the Toyota/Lexus community such a favor with your commitment to high-level performance with the V8.
These manifolds are fantastic in their design. In particular, the driver's side manifold is a work of art given the space constraints.
I only hope that, we, the members of the community can share in your passion and do our part to support your enthusiastic efforts by swapping v160's and running turbo set ups on our own V8's.
05-11-07, 08:25 PM
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We're interested in releasing a full hit, however the cost is going to be higher. A FULL kit would include
smaller twin turbos,
2 into 1 downpipe,
lines,
dual intakes,
dual filters,
twin manifolds,
dual TIAL wastegates
dual midpipes from turbos to manifolds
ceramic coating or heat wrapping
All of this is we put it out would be in the $7700 area; pretty much on par with the 2jz small twin kits out there. That being said, if there is enough interest, we can get go forward with the complete bolt on kit. It's up to you guys
Eric
smaller twin turbos,
2 into 1 downpipe,
lines,
dual intakes,
dual filters,
twin manifolds,
dual TIAL wastegates
dual midpipes from turbos to manifolds
ceramic coating or heat wrapping
All of this is we put it out would be in the $7700 area; pretty much on par with the 2jz small twin kits out there. That being said, if there is enough interest, we can get go forward with the complete bolt on kit. It's up to you guys
Eric
05-11-07, 08:32 PM
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If I hadnt just supercharged.
Good thing though, I have no self control. Your V160 swap is already going to take a toll on my bank account.
What about those pulleys? Are you selling those?
Good thing though, I have no self control. Your V160 swap is already going to take a toll on my bank account.What about those pulleys? Are you selling those?
05-12-07, 10:39 PM
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I guess what I am saying is that the manufacturing cost and overhead of these shouldnt be significantly higher than a set of headers that exhaust to the rear. On top of that I seriously doubt that the equilibrium price point is going to be $1800-$2400, the FI community is pretty small as it is at that price point I doubt that very many units will make it off the shelf.
The goal of Pricing strategy is to maximize profits while obtaining good market penetration. In fact sales volume is one of the components that affects profitabillity. If you price it to high you wont move enough units to make any real money, price it too low and your margins will be too thin and again you dont make any money.
But hey I am sure that the folks at MVP know all about this so I'll back out at this point.
The goal of Pricing strategy is to maximize profits while obtaining good market penetration. In fact sales volume is one of the components that affects profitabillity. If you price it to high you wont move enough units to make any real money, price it too low and your margins will be too thin and again you dont make any money.
But hey I am sure that the folks at MVP know all about this so I'll back out at this point.
05-12-07, 11:41 PM
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If someone is manufactuing (and have installed on a running car) turbo Lexus V8 manifolds equal in quality and design for $600 for the set, let me know and I'll go in for 10 sets right now. Sadly though no one is. If they were going to, they would have already.
The difference between the run of the mill NA headers and these is that the NA headers are basically bent piping with a collector welded on the end. These manifolds are not like that at all. If you examine the photos on page 1, you can see that all of the pipes have to be split in certian areas then mated. Each runner has to be cut, ground, and fitted by hand to each of the other runners which is all VERY lavor intesive. We also make out own collector in the way the pipes merge. From what we've seen in the kits offered by SRT and Modavi, their manifolds are inferior in comparison as they basically use a stock/inefficient design.
We're still discussing price but right now we are expecting them to be in the 2500 dollar range, which I believe is fair. That's for both manifolds, heat wrapped and ready to go. From what we've seen, they beat anything on the market in both design and price. That includes both Modavi and SRT which kits apprently run 15K and 30K respectively.
Thanks guys,
Eric
Sadly though no one is. If they were going to, they would have already. The difference between the run of the mill NA headers and these is that the NA headers are basically bent piping with a collector welded on the end. These manifolds are not like that at all. If you examine the photos on page 1, you can see that all of the pipes have to be split in certian areas then mated. Each runner has to be cut, ground, and fitted by hand to each of the other runners which is all VERY lavor intesive. We also make out own collector in the way the pipes merge. From what we've seen in the kits offered by SRT and Modavi, their manifolds are inferior in comparison as they basically use a stock/inefficient design.
We're still discussing price but right now we are expecting them to be in the 2500 dollar range, which I believe is fair. That's for both manifolds, heat wrapped and ready to go. From what we've seen, they beat anything on the market in both design and price. That includes both Modavi and SRT which kits apprently run 15K and 30K respectively.
Thanks guys,
Eric
05-13-07, 06:56 AM
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Again that's the ballpark we're thining about..it may be a little less it may be a little more. I also think that's a fair price given what similar items are on the market now for the 2jz, and given that the labor in these is intense. I'm am hoping that there are some SC/GS400 owners out there that want to bring their car into the performance arena of the 2jz. Just to shed a little light on that, it's nothing for a 2jz to pump out 650 rwhp on pump gas in daily driven form. I did it for years, and whatsmore the bar is being raised every year. I've been reading posts by dozens of SC/GS400 guys saying "..only if there were an affordable set of manifolds for the 1uz V8..." Those wishes have come true finally.
Now let's put part of the equation together... Nowadays a person can run a 6 speed SC400 w/ a V8TT for reasonable cash.Eric
