Question for the swapped guys
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Question for the swapped guys
So its been a considerable amount of time now, I wanted to know if anyone regrets doing their swap.
I've done so much with my SC and am totally in love that I'd hate to do a swap only to find myself full of regret. That has been my experience in the past regarding swaps. Its fun for a while til all the little problems you get become more than its worth.
I'm looking to do a 2jzgte swap with a small single (stock fuel) and have the lexus/toyota reliability...
is it possible? or a better questions is.... is it likely?
I've done so much with my SC and am totally in love that I'd hate to do a swap only to find myself full of regret. That has been my experience in the past regarding swaps. Its fun for a while til all the little problems you get become more than its worth.
I'm looking to do a 2jzgte swap with a small single (stock fuel) and have the lexus/toyota reliability...
is it possible? or a better questions is.... is it likely?
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Originally Posted by ummagawd
So its been a considerable amount of time now, I wanted to know if anyone regrets doing their swap.
I've done so much with my SC and am totally in love that I'd hate to do a swap only to find myself full of regret. That has been my experience in the past regarding swaps. Its fun for a while til all the little problems you get become more than its worth.
I'm looking to do a 2jzgte swap with a small single (stock fuel) and have the lexus/toyota reliability...
is it possible? or a better questions is.... is it likely?
I've done so much with my SC and am totally in love that I'd hate to do a swap only to find myself full of regret. That has been my experience in the past regarding swaps. Its fun for a while til all the little problems you get become more than its worth.
I'm looking to do a 2jzgte swap with a small single (stock fuel) and have the lexus/toyota reliability...
is it possible? or a better questions is.... is it likely?
high 50's/low 60's turbo should be more than fine. As you know the further away from
stock you get the more BS arises. Just dont let the MOD MONSTER out along the away.
I've had my share of BS over the years & the monsters always is taunting me. (even with
what if we just ENHACE the current set up) The cars been really good & I dont want to
change things because of the possibility for new problems. All cars develope problems,
modded or not.
Regrets, The need for more money to make the inside & outside 1/2 as nice as yours.
Problems, long since forgotten after mashing down on the pedal.
DO IT, just keep your goal, purpose & expectations in mind.
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If done correctly you will have very little problems... Most problems arise from either poor installation or poor tuning..If you have a realistic goal and follow through with it with quality in mind you will be golden. I think the 67 would be to big for your plans. I would say no bigger than 63...I prob. would even go alittle smaller than that.
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Originally Posted by ummagawd
the 67 was my original choice... but then garret came out with a new 40 series... the 4088 which is inbetween the 61 and 67....
my goal is the most HP on pump gas.... not only that... but i want the turbo in its efficiency range for this goal
my goal is the most HP on pump gas.... not only that... but i want the turbo in its efficiency range for this goal
How about a T-88h SPL, 272's, veilside intake, 4" exhaust & supporting mods.
Low boost (pump gas) was almost 700 rwhp -> 28psi was 870rwhp. There
was a lot left but it had a stock bottom end. (rod bendage around 900)
Back on topic, what trans are you using? If your staying w/ the 5 speed I'd stay
around 450whp to be safe. I think ANGEL (OG) was around 530 when his broke
& he got mine as a spare.
Also pick a set up thats tried & true. Nothing real leading edge, if your leading
you'll be the 1st to know about new problems.
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Supra dr has given you excellent advice . I would spend a little extra time knowing the history and condition of the 2jz-gte or 1jz-gte swap that you are buying. Make sure nothing in the head (valves, stem seals, springs, etc) need to be replaced, etc. I'm just curious, why you didn't decide to go the na-t route?
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Originally Posted by dejacky
Supra dr has given you excellent advice . I would spend a little extra time knowing the history and condition of the 2jz-gte or 1jz-gte swap that you are buying. Make sure nothing in the head (valves, stem seals, springs, etc) need to be replaced, etc. I'm just curious, why you didn't decide to go the na-t route?
thats actually a good point that i didn't consider... will do
the 2jzgte will be checked prior to me moving forward with any of this.
and the reason i backed out the NA-T route was:
1- i got the 2jzgte for a good price
2 - my current motor eats up too much oil, so i'm worried about NA-T'ing it... i don't think it'll handle it too well
And as for the tranny... i actually have a soarer r154 tranny... I figured I wanted to be able to not have to baby the tranny at my power level.
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looks like your freaking beating me to everything bra!..damn
Originally Posted by ummagawd
thats actually a good point that i didn't consider... will do
the 2jzgte will be checked prior to me moving forward with any of this.
and the reason i backed out the NA-T route was:
1- i got the 2jzgte for a good price
2 - my current motor eats up too much oil, so i'm worried about NA-T'ing it... i don't think it'll handle it too well
And as for the tranny... i actually have a soarer r154 tranny... I figured I wanted to be able to not have to baby the tranny at my power level.
the 2jzgte will be checked prior to me moving forward with any of this.
and the reason i backed out the NA-T route was:
1- i got the 2jzgte for a good price
2 - my current motor eats up too much oil, so i'm worried about NA-T'ing it... i don't think it'll handle it too well
And as for the tranny... i actually have a soarer r154 tranny... I figured I wanted to be able to not have to baby the tranny at my power level.
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So your just teasing w/ the low HP#.
A real nice "street" set up that I was involved with was:
T-67 GTQ DBB/ recirculated WG, standard 3" turbo back, 720 cc's
old school vpc/gcc/stock ecu. Nice power & great spool for the street.
ran consistant 11.1/ 11.2's. Not overly involved - a tried & true set up.
Later did hks 264's to enhance the set up & ran a 10.9 w/ 1.7 60 ft (stick)
before getting the boot. (no roll bar) The cams REALLY woke it up for the
street. Helped the spool even more & better midrange. Top end.....
well anything over 500hp is fast for the street.
Probably go a similar route if the old T-78 takes a poop.
If you want to be a baller, i've seen some slightly used 88mm's
for sale - the 90mm's + are coming.
A real nice "street" set up that I was involved with was:
T-67 GTQ DBB/ recirculated WG, standard 3" turbo back, 720 cc's
old school vpc/gcc/stock ecu. Nice power & great spool for the street.
ran consistant 11.1/ 11.2's. Not overly involved - a tried & true set up.
Later did hks 264's to enhance the set up & ran a 10.9 w/ 1.7 60 ft (stick)
before getting the boot. (no roll bar) The cams REALLY woke it up for the
street. Helped the spool even more & better midrange. Top end.....
well anything over 500hp is fast for the street.
Probably go a similar route if the old T-78 takes a poop.
If you want to be a baller, i've seen some slightly used 88mm's
for sale - the 90mm's + are coming.
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man finally... its hard to find someone to get good info on when it comes to this (i hate weeding through the arseholes at SF)
supra dr.... were you on a stock GTE fuel pump (or the walbro 255) when you were on the 67?
I'm looking at the 67 with a .70AR... not sure what trim yet. Bbut basically i don't ever want to deal with dual fuel pumps or anything like that. I can deal with bigger injectors and 650/720 is about the max I'd go before i get uncomfortable tuning it with the MAP-ECU
Do you think a 63 would be better on stock cams? Or are 264's ALWAYS a good thing to do
supra dr.... were you on a stock GTE fuel pump (or the walbro 255) when you were on the 67?
I'm looking at the 67 with a .70AR... not sure what trim yet. Bbut basically i don't ever want to deal with dual fuel pumps or anything like that. I can deal with bigger injectors and 650/720 is about the max I'd go before i get uncomfortable tuning it with the MAP-ECU
Do you think a 63 would be better on stock cams? Or are 264's ALWAYS a good thing to do
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Originally Posted by ummagawd
man finally... its hard to find someone to get good info on when it comes to this (i hate weeding through the arseholes at SF)
supra dr.... were you on a stock GTE fuel pump (or the walbro 255) when you were on the 67?
I'm looking at the 67 with a .70AR... not sure what trim yet. Bbut basically i don't ever want to deal with dual fuel pumps or anything like that. I can deal with bigger injectors and 650/720 is about the max I'd go before i get uncomfortable tuning it with the MAP-ECU
Do you think a 63 would be better on stock cams? Or are 264's ALWAYS a good thing to do
supra dr.... were you on a stock GTE fuel pump (or the walbro 255) when you were on the 67?
I'm looking at the 67 with a .70AR... not sure what trim yet. Bbut basically i don't ever want to deal with dual fuel pumps or anything like that. I can deal with bigger injectors and 650/720 is about the max I'd go before i get uncomfortable tuning it with the MAP-ECU
Do you think a 63 would be better on stock cams? Or are 264's ALWAYS a good thing to do
Stock fuel & 'pump gas' are 2 entirely different terms.
Quickturbo's 88mm can probably put down 800hp+ on pump gas.
Stock fuel, is just that. Injector size has no bearing on the amount of fuel
that is feed to them. The injector size only determines the amount of fuel
delivered to each clyinder. If you search 'stock fuel' or 'single pump' I'm
sure you will find a max HP rating for it. I'm thinking 500hp is probably it.
The gte pump IMO is far better to the walbro pump in service life &
relyability. Also its plug & play, compared to changing the connector.
The downside is it's a power pig. All the fuel systems I do have dedicated
power for the pump(s). I run a fused power directly from the battery to a
relay. I use the power out from the F.P. ECU to trip the relay. (power
wire that use to go to the stock pump) Some people do the +12v mod
on the F.P. ECU, some don't.
Will finish this later .... Gotta go.
The 67 car was on dual pumps
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yea...my bad i guess what i'm really asking for is the most HP out of a stock GTE fuel pump (plus X size injectors)... not sure I want to mess with all the hassle of doing dual pumps and stuff (unless its really easy).
You mention the OEM GTE pump being better for its plug n play factor... but if one is going to do the 12v mod and run dedicated power and stuff... it wouldn't be that much more to run a walbro wouldn't it?
You mention the OEM GTE pump being better for its plug n play factor... but if one is going to do the 12v mod and run dedicated power and stuff... it wouldn't be that much more to run a walbro wouldn't it?