ummagawd

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when its NOT in a car?

i'm buying a long block and need to make sure it's all good before i drop it in...

any suggestions?


right now all I've got is the guy's word

SPORTcoupe

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You can do a leak-down and see if the motor can be turned by hand.
If either of these two fail, well...find another.

~Alan

aliga

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feed the starter some power, and do compression test.

onlylexus8

why did you ask the same question in two different forums?

http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=338654

ummagawd

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so i could conclude a definative answer

933005spd

If you have a motor of unknown condition, outside the car and the car is running fine or not needed right way, then why not just take the time and rebuild?

At least pull the head and send it on off... and the TB - get it worked also...

Easier out than in...

ummagawd

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well thats what i'm doing... but i wanted to start off with a good long block...

otherwise... i would have paid less and bought a shot block and just rebuild... all i'm doing is piecing it together... cuz its missing quite a few parts

this is a 2jzgte motor... if it was a NA motor.... then i'd rebuild regardless

JoshFSM

Uh-oh, i only thought people like you were on honda-tech Try and answer a question instead of asking one....

Anywho, agreed, a leakdown is probably your best bet. And if at all possible, pay via paypal to protect yourself in the event of an issue.

Josh

ummagawd

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okay so leakdowns are possibly to do if a an engine is out of the car...

here's a dillemma.... there is no starter

man i'm starting to think this 2jzgte swap is gonna be more headache than NA-T

rscott

tommy you play with my emotions. i hate you sometimes.
i went through the same thing though.

compression test youll need a starter/flywheel. you can leakdown without starting. it will be fun listening to all the places the air could leak out.

oil cap...exhaust...intake...bubles in the radiator...
maybe ask the guy to sign a contract that guarantees proper compression numbers then get it tested asap?

ummagawd

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dude... i hate myself sometimes... i can't make decisions for *****
i'll talk to the guy and see if we can't work out something about its health

i still dunno man... there's so many little things i'd have to buy to make it complete... i don't know if i wanna deal with all that


AS FOR THE leakdown test... the motor is pretty much a long block.... i wouldn't need any of the manifolds or anything like that on there right? I will prolly need an oil pan i'm guessing?

SPORTcoupe

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What exactly are you trying to do?
I would think that if you're trying to do a GTE swap, you'd like the intake manifold to come with the motor. If you'd like to go single on it, you don't need the exhaust manifold or the stock turbos but I would think you're doing the GTE (instead of NA-T) in order to get the car properly smogged and for that you would need the stock manifolds, stock turbos, etc...

~Alan

ummagawd

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i'm pretty much trying to decide whether ot not:

1 - go full GTE swap with big single
2 - go NA-T with GTE bottom end
3 - go full NA-T and sell off the GTE for parts

i'm leaning towards 1 or 2

and after a discussion with a friend who used to own a state ref smog station... there is no legal way to smog a GTE equipped lexus

SPORTcoupe

iTrader: (2)

I beg to differ.
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/replace.htm

Engine Changes
Engine changes are legal as long as the following requirements are met to ensure that the change does not increase pollution from the vehicle:
The engine must be the same year or newer than the vehicle.

The engine must be from the same type of vehicle (passenger car, light-duty truck, heavy-duty truck, etc.) based on gross vehicle weight.

If the vehicle is a California certified vehicle then the engine must also be a California certified engine.

All emissions control equipment must remain on the installed engine.
After an engine change, vehicles must first be inspected by a state referee station. The vehicle will be inspected to ensure that all the equipment required is in place, and vehicle will be emissions tested subject to the specifications of the installed engine.

also...

Used engines imported from Japan can be used as replacement engines as long as the engine being used has been identified as functionally identical to the original engine. Please refer to the engine importers catalogue to determine if a replacement engine is legal for installation in your vehicle.

~Alan

EDIT: One more thing...I've personally spoken with 1 guy (who used to be on CL) that has legally smogged a GTE swapped SC3.

ummagawd

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well i'm not trying to argue with you

i quoted the same thing to the guy i was talking to...

and he said, as an ex ref station owner... that "there is no legal way to smog a GTE lexus in CA"

anyways... who cares... go big single or go home!