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New 2019 Toyota RAV4. Lexus NX will have to up their game

Old 03-31-18, 09:23 AM
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Default New 2019 Toyota RAV4. Lexus NX will have to up their game

After seeing the 2019 RAV4 videos at the NY Auto Show I’m thinking Lexus will need to upgrade the NX in order to keep buyers from defecting to Toyota. 8 speed auto with a NA 2.5 liter engine putting out around 200 hp. Plus Apple Car Play and all the electronic goodies at a reasonable price. I’m thinking seriously about trading in my 2015 NX for one. Any others?
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The NX has more power and better materials/fit/finish still. You end up behind by trading in so soon and let's face it you lose out on the Lexus badge.
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Originally Posted by rVague
After seeing the 2019 RAV4 videos at the NY Auto Show I’m thinking Lexus will need to upgrade the NX in order to keep buyers from defecting to Toyota. 8 speed auto with a NA 2.5 liter engine putting out around 200 hp. Plus Apple Car Play and all the electronic goodies at a reasonable price. I’m thinking seriously about trading in my 2015 NX for one. Any others?
The new RAV4 also has pano roof and heated rear seats, which are both missing from the 2018 NX F Sport in the US.
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Originally Posted by no1SomeGuy
The NX has more power and better materials/fit/finish still. You end up behind by trading in so soon and let's face it you lose out on the Lexus badge.
As I've gotten older I could care less about the badge versus bang for buck maybe it's just me. I agree the NX has more power and better fit and finish but the tech and other features on the new RAV4 that NX doesn't offer is nothing to be ignored either.
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2019 infi qx50 and Acura rdx are going to be a tough competition... for the NX.

i like to see lexus nx gets pana roof, HUD and carplay.. which is pretty standard on any luxury cars and highend budget cars.
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The NX sales will be hurt by the up coming offerings for sure.
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My guess is that the NX will get Apple CarPlay either for the MY2019 or 2020. Then see a redesigned NX in 2020 for MY2021 with all the features seen in the RAV4 and more.
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Originally Posted by no1SomeGuy
The NX has more power and better materials/fit/finish still. You end up behind by trading in so soon and let's face it you lose out on the Lexus badge.
If you haven’t seen the 2019 Rav 4 you should definitely take a look. The redesign is pretty phenomenal. Hopefully Lexus has a similar refresh this Fall, otherwise I agree with OP that there will be defectors to Toyota. The “fit and finish” exclusive bragging rights of luxury brands has been losing ground for years...this coming from a current LS owner.
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If you haven’t seen the 2019 Rav 4 you should definitely take a look. The redesign is pretty phenomenal. Hopefully Lexus has a similar refresh this Fall, otherwise I agree with OP that there will be defectors to Toyota. The “fit and finish” exclusive bragging rights of luxury brands has been losing ground for years...this coming from a current LS owner.
Lexus won’t redesign for a couple years...they just released the midcycle refresh of the NX for MY2018.
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Originally Posted by dchar


Lexus won’t redesign for a couple years...they just released the midcycle refresh of the NX for MY2018.

no, they will. they have to now.
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We might see a new NX for 2020 model year at the earliest I'd guess.
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Originally Posted by plex
As I've gotten older I could care less about the badge versus bang for buck maybe it's just me. I agree the NX has more power and better fit and finish but the tech and other features on the new RAV4 that NX doesn't offer is nothing to be ignored either.
The thing is the NX offers all those features...but in other markets. That really drives me nuts. I also have a 2015 NX and in one or two years the RAV4 zoomed past the NX in terms of features. And Lexus made no effort to catch up the NX during the mid-cycle refresh. The NX is still trailing.

Lexus will have a better finish, but as far as fit, Lexus and Toyota cars go through pretty much the same building process. Your Toyota should not rattle any more than your Lexus just because of the badge.
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Originally Posted by Krishprabz
2019 infi qx50 and Acura rdx are going to be a tough competition... for the NX.

i like to see lexus nx gets pana roof, HUD and carplay.. which is pretty standard on any luxury cars and highend budget cars.
Agree 100%. We were going to trade in our 2015 RX450h for a 2018 NXh until we found out the panoramic roof and HUD were only going to be available on the overseas version. WHAT!!! Now waiting for the 2019 Acura RDX hybrid. Between my wife and I we have owned 12 Acura's over 25 years. We went over to Lexus five years ago. Can not beat their reliability and cost of maintenance. So glad we did not pull the trigger since seeing the 2019 RDX. No comparison. Lexus has no Android Auto or Apple Play. Has no HUD or panoramic roof. Never liked the front grill on the Lexus SUVs with that large mouth grill. Do not like Lexus's two tone seats or only black dash that shows every piece of lint. RDX has a much better looking modern shifter, medium gray dash and much better mouse pad. The SH AWD is all wheel drive on steroids. The NX has no wood accents and not real leather. If this comes in with the hybrid option around $48,000 it will be a huge success. The MDX hybrid with every option list at $58,000.
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The 2019 Rav4 has caught my eye. Supposedly the hybrid version will have a 600mpg fuel range, so I'm guessing the city mpg will be in the mid to high 30mpg range, which would be great for my needs. What will be even better is if the Rav4 gets a plug in option a la the Prius Prime and gets the first 25 miles solely electric, though this will not be the case.

Be cautious of the new Acura's. The 2019 RDX looks promising, but I would be weary of their 10 speed transmission. Their reliability is not where it once was. I gave up on Acura when my TL needed to have its transmission rebuilt and also needed a new engine due to absurd oil consumption.
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I agree the new RAV4 is a nice rugged looking CUV with superb cargo capacity and interior room. However, latest Toyotas on the new TNGA platform (Prius, Camry) have shown their cost-cutting in their interiors. Camry and Prius have lots of hard plastics and much of the interior feels cheap and thin to the touch. Can't draw the same conclusion yet on the new RAV4...

Lexus (and Toyota) is typically on a 6-year generation cycle with their FWD platform vehicles and combined with continued hot sales of the NX, expect the next NX to be no sooner than a 2021 MY.

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