Lexus Enform 2.0 to update with Apple CarPlay
01-11-19, 03:29 PM
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Piece of anecdotal historical evidence here. BMW from CCC idrive to CIC idrive midway through a MY for the 5 series came to the same conclusion. Hardware problem. However being BMW, the aftermarket stepped in, starting offering retrofits for some change, and introduced additional remote software enabled options. While I dont know what the issue here is, these are modules, and you cant just add ram, or hdd/ssd, or a cpu. Modules by module here.
01-11-19, 03:45 PM
#92
I’m not aware of any major technical change from 2018 to 2019 or even early 2019 to current 2019. The hardware was refreshed for the 2018 MY. Same screen, same controls.
Maybe someone has more technical knowledge of what exactly changed.
Maybe someone has more technical knowledge of what exactly changed.
01-11-19, 03:47 PM
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Unfortunately it makes perfect sense...Apple probably requires some head unit with minimum HW specs and the NX pre-Oct don't meet these requirements, so they will never get upgraded.
01-11-19, 03:48 PM
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01-11-19, 03:50 PM
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Piece of anecdotal historical evidence here. BMW from CCC idrive to CIC idrive midway through a MY for the 5 series came to the same conclusion. Hardware problem. However being BMW, the aftermarket stepped in, starting offering retrofits for some change, and introduced additional remote software enabled options. While I dont know what the issue here is, these are modules, and you cant just add ram, or hdd/ssd, or a cpu. Modules by module here.
here is the issue I think
”Apple will have all of its CarPlay hardware go through the MFi program, which means the product will require an authentication chip that aims to prevent unofficial products from offering the CarPlay feature.”
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01-11-19, 04:21 PM
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thats whats I meant if its the hardware that is bot good enough then that could be the issue. You will not be able to upgrade ram or cpu.
here is the issue I think
”Apple will have all of its CarPlay hardware go through the MFi program, which means the product will require an authentication chip that aims to prevent unofficial products from offering the CarPlay feature.”
Sure. But other vehicle brands have upgraded after the fact. So it is possible.
01-12-19, 05:07 PM
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01-14-19, 07:48 AM
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After speaking with them for a long time this weekend they said the 2019 models were split. So the ones made early won't have it, but the ones with it are just now rolling in. They said the headunits are completely different between the two models. I don't think they'll offer it as a retrofit just because the amount of work it takes, pretty much have to tear up the whole front of the car. If they do, it might have an outrageous price tag. But I'm going with what they told me, that it won't be available. Unless the other guy who said April 2019 is a serious Lexus insider with a ton of knowledge of this issue, I would remain skeptical. Also, the way he stated "April 2019 Lexus will update all" makes it seem like he thinks this is a simple software upgrade, not the case here.
I have a very good standing with my dealership and they are trying to right the wrong of the salesman who told me Carplay would be an upgrade for my car, they feel very bad about it. So if it was available or plans to make it that way, I know they would tell me for sure. Of course I'm hoping I'm wrong on all this, but after my few hour visit and chats, I did not get a positive feeling about the issue...
I have a very good standing with my dealership and they are trying to right the wrong of the salesman who told me Carplay would be an upgrade for my car, they feel very bad about it. So if it was available or plans to make it that way, I know they would tell me for sure. Of course I'm hoping I'm wrong on all this, but after my few hour visit and chats, I did not get a positive feeling about the issue...
I implore you to get some sort of satisfaction from your dealer. It's a really bad start to an already bad relationship, surely to only get worse.
01-14-19, 08:13 AM
#101
I have heard this MULTIPLE times. Carplay is really played up like it is some heaven sent, but honestly car companies have caught up and passed them in the tech dept. I don't know why people want to turn off our dynamic nav and voice so they can talk to Apple and use the slower processing power of their phone to do it. And before someone states "well Lexus messed it up", Lexus has nothing to do with Apple Carplay. It's is a OS of it's own. You turn off our OS and start theirs. We do nothing.
01-14-19, 08:30 AM
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What if you bought a Silver iPhone in January and Apple released a new color in February? Would you be ticked because you preferred that color more? If I buy product 'A' with 'X' features, then 'X' features is what I paid for. Keep in mind that Apple is no longer supporting anything older than Gen6 iphones.
But yes, I'm with you, for Lexus to 'fine print' available after is kind of sucky on their part. And to make a major running change is kind of sucky as well. They must be playing a serious game of catch up....hence the 2018-19 update.
But yes, I'm with you, for Lexus to 'fine print' available after is kind of sucky on their part. And to make a major running change is kind of sucky as well. They must be playing a serious game of catch up....hence the 2018-19 update.
https://www.theinternetpatrol.com/st...rop-on-iphone/
Not wanting to get into Apple too much, but point being, anyone sold a bill of goods at their local Lexus dealership should get some sort of fair-value credit. That's the only way to show they care about customer loyalty.
01-14-19, 05:02 PM
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It's sad to see people on here who blame themselves for dealer mistakes. If someone sold me a car and said it had CarPlay and it didn't, I would immediately take it back. If they were so intractable as to not remedy the mistake (possibly credit me $, eg, or quite simply take the vehicle back), I would then seek legal recourse.
I implore you to get some sort of satisfaction from your dealer. It's a really bad start to an already bad relationship, surely to only get worse.
I implore you to get some sort of satisfaction from your dealer. It's a really bad start to an already bad relationship, surely to only get worse.
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01-16-19, 07:08 PM
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I went to my dealership here in Toronto Canada and asked again about Carplay and they said it will be rolled out by lexus canada. They told me they are telling customers who buy pre-October 2019s that it will be retrofitted. Thats the latest.
01-16-19, 07:12 PM
#105
Good. The same was posted twice earlier in this thread. Any details on how it will be updated? Over the air, USB?