2018 NX - remote starter ?
#32
Intermediate
I personally appreciate that Lexus has included this "shut off" feature as another layer of protection against auto theft...
#33
Pole Position
But I hear you, it's a little dumb. I'm pretty positive it's a safety measure. However, and I don't know if some of you tried like I did, but you can't go very far without the key fob in the vehicle...
Last edited by Eduskator; 03-01-18 at 10:54 AM.
#34
Intermediate
Folks, I contacted one local automotive electronics installer and was told that they can activate NX OEM remote to start/stop the car. Of course, the range will be just as lousy as we know it is - 30 feet or so. Price - under $300. I will explore this further and will let you know if I installed it and the rest.
However, additionally, I want to install Start-X modular that allows you to start your car (any car they claim, the distance is 300-500ft) from your mobile phone and without monthly fee. The unit is sold through Amazon
Wish me luck.
However, additionally, I want to install Start-X modular that allows you to start your car (any car they claim, the distance is 300-500ft) from your mobile phone and without monthly fee. The unit is sold through Amazon
Wish me luck.
To start the car, it takes press “lock” three times. The warm-up time is set for 20 min and can be set for just about time length, I was told. Works like a charm.
#36
Intermediate
#37
Racer
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I made a thread a week or so ago. I'll just copy and paste it here to see if anyone might be able to test/try...etc.
I was playing with TechStream today... under various things that can be configured *by dealer only, if you don't have techstream*, and came across this. See pictures below.
It says Communication Remote Engine Starter = OFF (by default)
Under item description it doesn't give a whole lot of information: "Function to ON/OFF of the Remote Engine Starter.
Now this has me thinking... is this why Enform is used, but in all reality if this is turned on will the key fob remote start the NX? Does anyone know or have anymore information?
My wife has the year free of Enform with Lexus so as of right now I can't test this, however... is anyone in the VA/DC/MD area that would like to try? I will turn the feature on and we can see if the key fob will remote start the vehicle without an Enform subscription. That's key... you can't have an active Enform for remote start I'm guess because then it would start with the fob. My wife's is a 2018, but I'm sure this feature is probably on all the NXs...
Seems possible and hence why the dealers/Lexus state that an Enform subscription is the ONLY way to turn the remote start on which would be true if this value is set to OFF which is the default value presently set leaving the factory.
This might not do anything with the remote start honestly but it would be cool if we could try. I turned the feature on for my wife's NX but iwon't know if that does anything until December 2018...9 more months...lol
Figured I'd post this and if anyone wants to try we can figure out the logistics.
-Nigel
I was playing with TechStream today... under various things that can be configured *by dealer only, if you don't have techstream*, and came across this. See pictures below.
It says Communication Remote Engine Starter = OFF (by default)
Under item description it doesn't give a whole lot of information: "Function to ON/OFF of the Remote Engine Starter.
Now this has me thinking... is this why Enform is used, but in all reality if this is turned on will the key fob remote start the NX? Does anyone know or have anymore information?
My wife has the year free of Enform with Lexus so as of right now I can't test this, however... is anyone in the VA/DC/MD area that would like to try? I will turn the feature on and we can see if the key fob will remote start the vehicle without an Enform subscription. That's key... you can't have an active Enform for remote start I'm guess because then it would start with the fob. My wife's is a 2018, but I'm sure this feature is probably on all the NXs...
Seems possible and hence why the dealers/Lexus state that an Enform subscription is the ONLY way to turn the remote start on which would be true if this value is set to OFF which is the default value presently set leaving the factory.
This might not do anything with the remote start honestly but it would be cool if we could try. I turned the feature on for my wife's NX but iwon't know if that does anything until December 2018...9 more months...lol
Figured I'd post this and if anyone wants to try we can figure out the logistics.
-Nigel
#38
Intermediate
Nigel,
I saw your thread and what you find there is appealing. But… I do not / did not have anybody to play with the techstream, etc. So, I pulled the trigger and installed that solution. I suspect there was software modification but tech also installed (from receipt) UA59BO “Car Acc Al in One Module”. This is some kind of module that required to make remote start. I was also told that if I want to increase the range up to 1000ft, they can add antenna and small separate remote on the car keychain. Some programming will also require.
I saw your thread and what you find there is appealing. But… I do not / did not have anybody to play with the techstream, etc. So, I pulled the trigger and installed that solution. I suspect there was software modification but tech also installed (from receipt) UA59BO “Car Acc Al in One Module”. This is some kind of module that required to make remote start. I was also told that if I want to increase the range up to 1000ft, they can add antenna and small separate remote on the car keychain. Some programming will also require.
#39
Driver School Candidate
#40
Driver
Thread Starter
HI Yvan, not that I'm aware of and there not showing any on their website even for the 2019 that you can built on Lexus.ca
Bought my 2018 F-Sport Series 3 in March 2018 and had to get a aftermarket remote (provided by the dealer for free in the buying deal). Now I have to carry two remotes in winter as I need the OEM keyfob for keyless entry AND engine start. Downsize of that remote is that it won't open the rear door to full extension, they can't program it to open more that "level 4" (or whatever it's called) and as I am 6' it doesn't make it for me unless I want a forehead reconstruction !! I have to use the OEM for the rear hatch or the keyless button, wish we had the foot access in Canada.
There might be other aftermarket solution out there but not aware of it
In summary the aftermarket remote is only a remote starter for me ... for anything else I need the OEM key fob ... It's a bummer on a 60 000 CDN$ car ... but other than that and the HUD slight misalignment (see my other thread here) I really like my NX so I've learned to live with it for the remote and awaiting for a solution on the HUD situation
Bought my 2018 F-Sport Series 3 in March 2018 and had to get a aftermarket remote (provided by the dealer for free in the buying deal). Now I have to carry two remotes in winter as I need the OEM keyfob for keyless entry AND engine start. Downsize of that remote is that it won't open the rear door to full extension, they can't program it to open more that "level 4" (or whatever it's called) and as I am 6' it doesn't make it for me unless I want a forehead reconstruction !! I have to use the OEM for the rear hatch or the keyless button, wish we had the foot access in Canada.
There might be other aftermarket solution out there but not aware of it
In summary the aftermarket remote is only a remote starter for me ... for anything else I need the OEM key fob ... It's a bummer on a 60 000 CDN$ car ... but other than that and the HUD slight misalignment (see my other thread here) I really like my NX so I've learned to live with it for the remote and awaiting for a solution on the HUD situation
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#41
Pole Position
HI Yvan, not that I'm aware of and there not showing any on their website even for the 2019 that you can built on Lexus.ca
Bought my 2018 F-Sport Series 3 in March 2018 and had to get a aftermarket remote (provided by the dealer for free in the buying deal). Now I have to carry two remotes in winter as I need the OEM keyfob for keyless entry AND engine start. Downsize of that remote is that it won't open the rear door to full extension, they can't program it to open more that "level 4" (or whatever it's called) and as I am 6' it doesn't make it for me unless I want a forehead reconstruction !! I have to use the OEM for the rear hatch or the keyless button, wish we had the foot access in Canada.
There might be other aftermarket solution out there but not aware of it
In summary the aftermarket remote is only a remote starter for me ... for anything else I need the OEM key fob ... It's a bummer on a 60 000 CDN$ car ... but other than that and the HUD slight misalignment (see my other thread here) I really like my NX so I've learned to live with it for the remote and awaiting for a solution on the HUD situation
Bought my 2018 F-Sport Series 3 in March 2018 and had to get a aftermarket remote (provided by the dealer for free in the buying deal). Now I have to carry two remotes in winter as I need the OEM keyfob for keyless entry AND engine start. Downsize of that remote is that it won't open the rear door to full extension, they can't program it to open more that "level 4" (or whatever it's called) and as I am 6' it doesn't make it for me unless I want a forehead reconstruction !! I have to use the OEM for the rear hatch or the keyless button, wish we had the foot access in Canada.
There might be other aftermarket solution out there but not aware of it
In summary the aftermarket remote is only a remote starter for me ... for anything else I need the OEM key fob ... It's a bummer on a 60 000 CDN$ car ... but other than that and the HUD slight misalignment (see my other thread here) I really like my NX so I've learned to live with it for the remote and awaiting for a solution on the HUD situation
My other disappointment (big one) is the horrible*fuel consumption. For a 4cyl 2.0T that has Atkinson cycle and the dynamic torque control of the AWD system, I would have thought it could do a lot better than 8.8/10.8... I can imagine this thing doing 15L/100km here in Winter when it's -30C outside...
Still undecided whether I'm getting one or not as my next vehicle, but the 2 cons below makes me hesitate.
Last edited by Eduskator; 07-09-18 at 06:05 AM.
#42
Driver
Thread Starter
My other disappointment (big one) is the horrible*fuel consumption. For a 4cyl 2.0T that has Atkinson cycle and the dynamic torque control of the AWD system, I would have thought it could do a lot better than 8.8/10.8... I can imagine this thing doing 15L/100km here in Winter when it's -30C outside...
For gas consumption, I took possession on March 29th so I can't relate to winter comsumption yet but just came back from a round trip to Niagara Falls, Ontario from a Montreal suburb (about 1500 km round trip). Driving exclusively in Eco mode and using adaptive cruise control at speed limit all the time, I've had 8.0l/100km on the way there and 7,8 l/100km on the way back including major traffic jams in and out of Toronto area and a 45 mins stop on the 401 on the way back (took us 45 mins to do 2.8km !!) as it was closed due to a major accident and then they sent us on side roads On the way back, until I reached Toronto and the traffic jams I was doing 6.6 - 6.8 over 125 km
For our US friends, according to this converter tool 7.8 to 8.0 liters per 100 km is about 30 MPG
Also, my experience in city mode, commuting to work in downtown Montreal from the Eastern suburb (about 40km) in Eco mode I'm doing around 9.8 to 10.3l/100km in urban driving for a 400 km week which is far better than my previous vehicle (Ford Edge with V6 at 12.5 to 13.0l/100km and 14.0 - 14.5 in winter conditions)
In summary, I would say that the "official" consumption numbers from Transport Canada are worst than real life driving if driving in conservative mode. But I must add that driving in "Sport" mode or "Sports +" mode (I have the F-Sport serie 3), the consumption rises quickly and is probably higher than the official numbers.
So don't let the gas consumption be a bigger deal than it can be because I think it all comes down to driving mode, conditions, driving habits and how much fun you want to have !! :-).
Last edited by slypx; 07-09-18 at 06:44 AM.
#44
Driver
Thread Starter
Thanks for the info, that could be for the 2019 model (already available to order), I'll see then what it is and if it can be retrofit and at what price ...
Last edited by slypx; 07-09-18 at 08:57 AM.
#45
Pole Position
I've decided not to let the remote issue be a show stopper for me but that is rather a personal choice.
For gas consumption, I took possession on March 29th so I can't relate to winter comsumption yet but just came back from a round trip to Niagara Falls, Ontario from a Montreal suburb (about 1500 km round trip). Driving exclusively in Eco mode and using adaptive cruise control at speed limit all the time, I've had 8.0l/100km on the way there and 7,8 l/100km on the way back including major traffic jams in and out of Toronto area and a 45 mins stop on the 401 on the way back (took us 45 mins to do 2.8km !!) as it was closed due to a major accident and then they sent us on side roads On the way back, until I reached Toronto and the traffic jams I was doing 6.6 - 6.8 over 125 km
For our US friends, according to this converter tool 7.8 to 8.0 liters per 100 km is about 30 MPG
Also, my experience in city mode, commuting to work in downtown Montreal from the Eastern suburb (about 40km) in Eco mode I'm doing around 9.8 to 10.3l/100km in urban driving for a 400 km week which is far better than my previous vehicle (Ford Edge with V6 at 12.5 to 13.0l/100km and 14.0 - 14.5 in winter conditions)
In summary, I would say that the "official" consumption numbers from Transport Canada are worst than real life driving if driving in conservative mode. But I must add that driving in "Sport" mode or "Sports +" mode (I have the F-Sport serie 3), the consumption rises quickly and is probably higher than the official numbers.
So don't let the gas consumption be a bigger deal than it can be because I think it all comes down to driving mode, conditions, driving habits and how much fun you want to have !! :-).
For gas consumption, I took possession on March 29th so I can't relate to winter comsumption yet but just came back from a round trip to Niagara Falls, Ontario from a Montreal suburb (about 1500 km round trip). Driving exclusively in Eco mode and using adaptive cruise control at speed limit all the time, I've had 8.0l/100km on the way there and 7,8 l/100km on the way back including major traffic jams in and out of Toronto area and a 45 mins stop on the 401 on the way back (took us 45 mins to do 2.8km !!) as it was closed due to a major accident and then they sent us on side roads On the way back, until I reached Toronto and the traffic jams I was doing 6.6 - 6.8 over 125 km
For our US friends, according to this converter tool 7.8 to 8.0 liters per 100 km is about 30 MPG
Also, my experience in city mode, commuting to work in downtown Montreal from the Eastern suburb (about 40km) in Eco mode I'm doing around 9.8 to 10.3l/100km in urban driving for a 400 km week which is far better than my previous vehicle (Ford Edge with V6 at 12.5 to 13.0l/100km and 14.0 - 14.5 in winter conditions)
In summary, I would say that the "official" consumption numbers from Transport Canada are worst than real life driving if driving in conservative mode. But I must add that driving in "Sport" mode or "Sports +" mode (I have the F-Sport serie 3), the consumption rises quickly and is probably higher than the official numbers.
So don't let the gas consumption be a bigger deal than it can be because I think it all comes down to driving mode, conditions, driving habits and how much fun you want to have !! :-).
Are these numbers hand calculated or they're based on the dash lye-o-meter consumption? From my experience, my vehicles have always shown 1-2L lower than the real fuel consumption. Fuelly shows an average of 24.4MPG (9.6L/100km) over 52k miles tracked for 2015s and 23.1MPG (10.2L/100km) over 47k miles tracked for 2016s, which is close to your numbers!
Toyota is known for its reliability, and also known for its bad fuel consumption. Guess both don't go well together. However, I do agree that it's not a ''show stopper'' when you like the brand and anything under 10 is reasonable for a fun and sporty SUV.
Back to the topic's subject, I'm LF to know if Lexus Canada will find a way to have remote starters that will use oem key fob.
Last edited by Eduskator; 07-09-18 at 11:05 AM.