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Old 04-30-14, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
well, i did work for toyota only for 9 years, so my experience is "limited", only difference you will see in 6 months would be equipment changes, pricing changes, if that... you wont get something changed in production unless it is such huge issue that they issue stop sale. and these are done irrelevant of MY.

you are free to check forums here for recently released models and it is the same. Issues simply dont filter back so fast and when they do, they are not fixed in production that fast as it takes long time to investigate reasons and find solutions. There are too many examples to list, but this isnt VW so if you want it dont delay it for something like that... Waiting is best for getting discounts off msrp but then, year later maybe we would pay few k more to enjoy car when it is just out?
My memory is a little foggy but what about the 3.0 V6 "sludge" engine?
Didn't Toyota come out with a design change in a year? Toyota/Lexus blamed it on bad customer maintenance but did change the engine.
Old 04-30-14, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rogerh00
My memory is a little foggy but what about the 3.0 V6 "sludge" engine?
Didn't Toyota come out with a design change in a year? Toyota/Lexus blamed it on bad customer maintenance but did change the engine.
Long time after 1 year passed.... 3-4-5-6 probably. They never sold them for Europe (I am European), but I know of the issues with local european models and nothing is that fast... with AD diesels 2.5 full years after catastrophic oil loss was found to be happening 6 months into cars appearing on market. And that was a priority #1 for company... several different fixes were provided but were not effective. Injectors in truck diesels - KD series (LC, Hilux) - issues started happening in LC's 5-7 years after it came on the market.

ZZ issues probably 6 years later, but they were very slow to happen and didnt happen on many cars.

We can look at GR and recall happened 5-6 years after engine started selling.

Something far simpler - squealing brakes got "fixed" by dealer installing different pad at request.

It is probably opposite of every other manufacturer, but in general, waiting 6 months to buy Japanese built Lexus from "Platinum award" plants with lowest number of problems per vehicle in the world, does not make much sense. You can wait for 3 years to get rid of 1-2 squeaks, but by then car wont be as interesting.

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Old 04-30-14, 02:00 PM
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Pictures aren't great because they're from my Google Glass, but I'm a bit torn. I like the horizontal bars on the regular 300h, but I don't like the way it cuts sharply in at the bottom (like the non F-sport RX). I prefer the larger grill on the F-sport, but I'm hybrid biased at the moment.



Old 04-30-14, 02:10 PM
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^ I think the F-Sport looks much nicer
Old 04-30-14, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by GiantsFan
^ I think the F-Sport looks much nicer
Agreed, the F-Sport has really grown on me for this model
Old 04-30-14, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Allen K
Pictures aren't great because they're from my Google Glass, but I'm a bit torn. I like the horizontal bars on the regular 300h, but I don't like the way it cuts sharply in at the bottom (like the non F-sport RX). I prefer the larger grill on the F-sport, but I'm hybrid biased at the moment.
I agree. I like the horizontal bars on the 300h, but don't enjoy the protruding-nose look. However, remember there's also a "sport appearance" version on the 300h similar to the F-Sport's bumper, but question is how this bumper will be packaged and which market(s) get it.

Old 04-30-14, 02:26 PM
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now....info...please....

NX is appealing but will a 6'2" saturation aquanaut be able to go in and out of this easy? Or does one have to lower the seat so that nearly sits on the ground beneath the floorboard? Spoiled with the GX ..works well for me....

Input..feedback..suggestions???? oh please oh please don't tell me to look at other brands...but if I have to....

this NX will only be use a putter around town suv....

?????????????????????????????
Old 04-30-14, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by corradoMR2
I agree. I like the horizontal bars on the 300h, but don't enjoy the protruding-nose look. However, remember there's also a "sport appearance" version on the 300h similar to the F-Sport's bumper, but question is how this bumper will be packaged and which market(s) get it.

Ahhhh ... there we go

Ive been noticing the sports appearance package on a lot of RXs lately
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Originally Posted by LVLEXUS
now....info...please....

NX is appealing but will a 6'2" saturation aquanaut be able to go in and out of this easy? Or does one have to lower the seat so that nearly sits on the ground beneath the floorboard? Spoiled with the GX ..works well for me....

Input..feedback..suggestions???? oh please oh please don't tell me to look at other brands...but if I have to....

this NX will only be use a putter around town suv....

?????????????????????????????
The ingress/egress of the NX will be maybe 3-4 inches lower than a GX, and guesstimating about 1 - 1.5 inches lower than an RX and RAV4. The NX is designed to be a "sports car" version of the RAV4 platform with a lower seating position and center of gravity. The closest height ingress/egress I'm guesstimating the NX to be like is like a Toyota Venza. As for headroom, we can expect similar amount across these vehicles (~39" at front). Try out the RX, RAV4, and especially the Venza to get an idea, the NX will be very close to these.
Old 04-30-14, 02:49 PM
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I like the hybrid grill.
The F-Sport grill to me is too much.I also find the F-Sport combo fog light and side light position weird.
Both may grow on me,though.
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Originally Posted by corradoMR2
I agree. I like the horizontal bars on the 300h, but don't enjoy the protruding-nose look. However, remember there's also a "sport appearance" version on the 300h similar to the F-Sport's bumper, but question is how this bumper will be packaged and which market(s) get it.

They haven't been too kind with giving the US any hybrid sports though.
Old 04-30-14, 05:50 PM
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Lexus Espana info about Hybrid engines:

NX 300h hybrid will be available in two versions, one with an all-wheel drive 4 × 4 and other front-wheel drive 4x2 (both versions with a maximum power of 197 hp). In the case of e-drive four-wheel drive, NX 300h will have independent electric engine delivers torque to the rear wheels when needed, that is, if the conditions for power or loss of adhesion, the RX 450h. This allows the advantages of 4x4 drive, but without increasing fuel consumption surplus. 4 × 2 version will have approved spending 5.1 liter, compared to 5.4 to 5.6 × fourth version 4

- See more at: http://www.estilolexus.com/lexus-nx-....6JXIBopC.dpuf
0-62 mph
NX300h: 9.9s
GS300h : 9.2s

MPG (l/100km) combined for lowest version:
NX300h: 5.1l/100km
GS300h : 4.7l/100km

NX300h comes Q4 2014, while NX 2.0t comes in 2015.

Consumption numbers are not bad, but they are not earth shattering for EU... best in class and "as expected".
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^^^Thanks for the find. 5.1L/100km sounds great however, I looked up the CT on the Spain site and it's at 3.6L/100km so we need to adjust these numbers since in Canada, the CT is at 4.5 L/100km. So in standardizing the NX number value to the Canadian value (then US), we get the following

4.5/3.6 x 5.1 = 6.4 L/100km Canada or ~36 mpg US

This seems very plausible for N. American figures.
Old 04-30-14, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
Lexus Espana info about Hybrid engines:



0-62 mph
NX300h: 9.9s
GS300h : 9.2s

MPG (l/100km) combined for lowest version:
NX300h: 5.1l/100km
GS300h : 4.7l/100km

NX300h comes Q4 2014, while NX 2.0t comes in 2015.

Consumption numbers are not bad, but they are not earth shattering for EU... best in class and "as expected".
Where did you get the NX300h 9.9s number? I'm not saying that it is false, but the 0-62 mph figure is pretty discouraging. I cannot categorize this as a spirited and youthful "new design" approach. Below 9s would have been more acceptable.

According to Motortrend, the 2014 Corolla can do 0-60 mph in 9.7s. There's really no class when even a Toyota Corolla can (literally) drag race this car.
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Originally Posted by Psychoart
Where did you get the NX300h 9.9s number? I'm not saying that it is false, but the 0-62 mph figure is pretty discouraging. I cannot categorize this as a spirited and youthful "new design" approach. Below 9s would have been more acceptable.

According to Motortrend, the 2014 Corolla can do 0-60 mph in 9.7s. There's really no class when even a Toyota Corolla can (literally) drag race this car.
Yeah, that's so much worse than I would have anticipated for acceleration. The ESh is much "faster" at 8.1 sec I believe....and that's still really slow. How can the NX be so much worse? Do weight and aerodynamics account for that much? I'll wait for the official numbers, but if that 9.9 holds true I am crossing the hybrid off my list.


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