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Old Apr 23, 2026 | 07:57 AM
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Just had a quick look at the Rav 4 specs page @ Toyota.ca. Seems all versions have a temporary spare tire and no mention of run flat tires. So the likelihood of 2027 NX being equipped the same is very high considering they are assembled on the same line in Cambridge.
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Old Apr 23, 2026 | 08:08 AM
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Did the previous RAV4 have RFT?
the 2025 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid does not come with run-flat tires. Instead, it features a standard space-saver spare tire. Goggle search
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Old Apr 23, 2026 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by anoop
Did the previous RAV4 have RFT?
That is what I was thinking. Did the Previous RAV4 have RFT's? Because RFT is considered Premium and it seemed only the Gas only Turbo NX 's in our area came with Spares while the rest had either a pump/sealant kit or RFT's.
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Old Apr 24, 2026 | 04:33 AM
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Those headlights not so great looking. They remind me of the prior Lexus NX like the 2020 with the separated strip from the headlights. It looks like a step backwards. Otherwise it looks the same, why camouflage the side mirror?? What on it they don’t want us to see?

Since Lexus backed off the timeline for full Electric everything and ICE is not going away, they need to make a real F Sport with real sport handling and more HP and torque for the enthusiasts. No 4 cylinder, bring the inline 6…an F Sport model should never have a 4 cylinder.
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Old Apr 24, 2026 | 04:43 AM
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May I also add that Lexus has a tremendous opportunity right now to make an F Sport that lives up to its name and grab future sales from BMW X3. The BMW X3 is losing sales big time, no one is buying the new model because how ugly they made the exterior and the interior is worse with owners saying it’s all plastic inside and disjoined not cohesive all screens and no physical buttons. They are literally sitting on lots and can’t sell them which use to be there bread and butter like the ES to Lexus.

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Old Apr 24, 2026 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Xanadu350
May I also add that Lexus has a tremendous opportunity right now to make an F Sport that lives up to its name and grab future sales from BMW X3. The BMW X3 is losing sales big time, no one is buying the new model because how ugly they made the exterior and the interior is worse with owners saying it’s all plastic inside and disjoined not cohesive all screens and no physical buttons. They are literally sitting on lots and can’t sell them which use to be there bread and butter like the ES to Lexus.
Are you sure about X3 not selling? From what I can tell, BMW produces much more of these and provides huge incentives to move them. Since production is very high, it gives the appearance of dealer lots being full. But they are actually selling well.

Lexus is playing a different game where they control supply tightly giving the illusion of higher demand due to lots appearing empty and dealers have waitlists. I am of the opinion Lexus should get rid of F sport. No one comes to Lexus looking for sporty. They come to Lexus for mpg and luxury. They seem to be losing the luxury part of the plot.
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Old Apr 24, 2026 | 07:23 AM
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BMW X3 is the best selling luxury suv in the usa in 2026. I do agree they are ugly, BMW sort of lost their way in their design langauge, Lexus, Audi and Mercedes all with better designs than BMW.
The refresh NX looks evolutionarily, minor changes, no half painted grille like the RX, which is fine because the NX looks good the way it is.
I too did not buy a NX for performance, although adjustable suspension would be nice. The current Lexus build quality has improved to the German luxury car level. We looked at the X3, Q5 and GLC before getting the NXh. Also Lexus NVH and ride quality have improved.
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Old Apr 24, 2026 | 07:38 AM
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Lexus seems way overpriced these days and they get away with it because they are the only game in town for hybrid. You could pay > $70K OTD for a 450h+. That's insane for a car this size, but I guess with all the money printing going on, there are plenty people flush with cash.

The big change in the NX refresh would be the interior if it follows the ES design language.

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Old Apr 24, 2026 | 10:25 AM
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The top selling luxury SUVs in sales by unit in 2025
1. Lexus RX
2. Lexus. NX
3. BMW X5
4. BMW X 3
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Old Apr 24, 2026 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Freds430
The top selling luxury SUVs in sales by unit in 2025
1. Lexus RX
2. Lexus. NX
3. BMW X5
4. BMW X 3
This says things are different in 2026
https://conzit.com/post/top-selling-...s-and-insights
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Old Apr 24, 2026 | 12:09 PM
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So far in 2026, the X3 is the sales leader in the US for luxury suv.
Like many other brands, Lexus prices have gone thru the roof, thanks to our current political climate. A co-worker just bought a Kia EV9 for almost $90,000, even Genesis are not a bargain anymore.
We are on our 5th Lexus and every Lexus has been better than the last, our NX350h is the biggest jump in all categories.
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Old Apr 24, 2026 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by The G Man
So far in 2026, the X3 is the sales leader in the US for luxury suv.
Like many other brands, Lexus prices have gone thru the roof, thanks to our current political climate. A co-worker just bought a Kia EV9 for almost $90,000, even Genesis are not a bargain anymore.
We are on our 5th Lexus and every Lexus has been better than the last, our NX350h is the biggest jump in all categories.
Please support your statement Lexus prices have going through the roof. In 2023 a Lexus RX 350h manufacturers suggested retail price was $50,400. In 2026 it's $54,500. This is the base model. That's an 8% increase in 3 years. That is the less than the annual inflation rate over the last 3 years. When you're referring to the current political situation are you forgetting about 2021- 2024 when inflation went up 22%.

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Old Apr 24, 2026 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Freds430
Please support your statement Lexus prices have going through the roof. In 2023 a Lexus RX 350h manufacturers suggested retail price was $50,400. In 2026 it's $54,500. This is the base model. That's an 8% increase in 3 years. That is the less than the annual inflation rate over the last 3 years. When you're referring to the current political situation are you forgetting about 2021- 2024 when inflation went up 22%.
You are talking msrp, the discounts are much lower if any these days and the lease rate and interest rate is higher as well. Our last NX we got $5000 off, cannot come close to that these days. Dealers also adding dealer options and port options to make more profit.

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Old Apr 24, 2026 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by The G Man
You are talking msrp, the discounts are much lower if any these days and the lease rate and interest rate is higher as well. Our last NX we got $5000 off, cannot come close to that these days. Dealers also adding dealer options and port options to make more profit.
If gas prices go up another couple of bucks they will be charging markups on hybrids again. Back when the NX 2nd gen came out and we also had pandemic money sloshing around, local dealer was charging $5k on 350h and $10k on 450h+. And they were getting it.
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Old Apr 25, 2026 | 03:05 AM
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Have three friends that within the last two months all bought 2026 NX350 (non hybrids). Each told me they got $3,500, $3,500 amd $4,000 discounts. These are not negotiating people. i asked each did you have to negotiate the discount and all three said no that was the discount on their original offer sheet.
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