FL WTB Pioneer Avic-F700BT
06-24-09, 12:13 PM
#5
Lexus Test Driver
Dude becareful, my 700BT is the biggest POS I Have ever owned..............and due to me being the biggest retard of all time this is my second one and all the issues are the exact same.
06-24-09, 01:40 PM
#6
06-24-09, 02:36 PM
#7
Lexus Test Driver
After I installed the unit I did the 2.0 update and went out to test how the GPS worked so I punched in a buddys address and off I went. About a half mile down the road the damn thing resets, I'm thinking WTF this isnt normal so I continue on my way. After it FINALLY boots back up it keeps saying Satellite lost..........how the hell is that possible when there is not a cloud in the sky, no trees or houses around me.....its an open area AND the antenna is on the roof. I get home and recheck all my connections and very thing is fine, I put it all back together and give it another shot.............wouldnt you know it the damn thing worked lol.
On to about a week later, the same thing starts happening this time it just kept rebooting. I figure the antenna might be bad so I ordered a new one, but no go...issue even with the new antenna. I go on here and learn that this is a common issue and I deleted a few files as stated in a few threads..............WALA it worked, for about 2 days before it started AGAIN! Now it will navigate for all of a few minutes before it stops responding.
On to issue #2..........Thumbdrives and hard drives are like Kryptonite. I plug in a thumbdrive and it works until I shutoff the car and restart it. When I shut the car off and turn it back on it does not recognize the drives, I have to unplug and replug it in for it to be recognized. I have tried all my thumbdrives which are Sony, Kingston, and Sandisk all different sizes, all of em do it.
Issue #3, I turn the car on let the system boot and guess what..................NO SOUND lol, not even the touch tone sounds, no music from CD's or from drives, but wait it gets better.... the AM/FM radio work fine lol. I have to shut the car off and restart it for the damn thing to fully work.
Issue #4, When I'm using the Blue Tooth feature after a few minutes of talking the system volume will go up and down on its own. I have tried 3 different phones and all of them experience the same issues.
Issue #5, The GPS will start talking in English then go to a random language.
Here is a funny side note, my neighbor bought the 900 and it is doing the same thing with thumb drives, not having sound, but now it wont even stay on for more than 10 minutes when the GPS is on all it does is reboot.
I called Pioneer and they tell me to send the unit in for repair, well wouldnt you know it they could not duplicate the problems, figures :roll:. They reset it to factory and sent it back to me.............do I even have to say what happened when I got it back? The same damn things, I called Pioneer yet AGAIN and I was not nice this time because I spent decent money on this unit and it does not work even AFTER sending it out to them. The Customer service rep told me it was an installation issue.......ummmm NO, I know for a fact that it is not an installation issue, the symptoms do not fit their diagnosis.......not to mention most of these issues are known to happen with these models and yet they still will not issue a recall. The unit is not hacked in anyway not hardware or software. So they wanted me to send it out for repair again, which I refused to do, at this point if I cant get this fixed on my own I will just chuck it. I heard rumbling about how bad Pioneer Nav units are, but this is my first one for personal use, I went against my better judgment and picked one up...............big freaking mistake, I should have stayed with the Kenwood. Never in my life did I think Pioneer would release such a inferior product.
On to about a week later, the same thing starts happening this time it just kept rebooting. I figure the antenna might be bad so I ordered a new one, but no go...issue even with the new antenna. I go on here and learn that this is a common issue and I deleted a few files as stated in a few threads..............WALA it worked, for about 2 days before it started AGAIN! Now it will navigate for all of a few minutes before it stops responding.
On to issue #2..........Thumbdrives and hard drives are like Kryptonite. I plug in a thumbdrive and it works until I shutoff the car and restart it. When I shut the car off and turn it back on it does not recognize the drives, I have to unplug and replug it in for it to be recognized. I have tried all my thumbdrives which are Sony, Kingston, and Sandisk all different sizes, all of em do it.
Issue #3, I turn the car on let the system boot and guess what..................NO SOUND lol, not even the touch tone sounds, no music from CD's or from drives, but wait it gets better.... the AM/FM radio work fine lol. I have to shut the car off and restart it for the damn thing to fully work.
Issue #4, When I'm using the Blue Tooth feature after a few minutes of talking the system volume will go up and down on its own. I have tried 3 different phones and all of them experience the same issues.
Issue #5, The GPS will start talking in English then go to a random language.
Here is a funny side note, my neighbor bought the 900 and it is doing the same thing with thumb drives, not having sound, but now it wont even stay on for more than 10 minutes when the GPS is on all it does is reboot.
I called Pioneer and they tell me to send the unit in for repair, well wouldnt you know it they could not duplicate the problems, figures :roll:. They reset it to factory and sent it back to me.............do I even have to say what happened when I got it back? The same damn things, I called Pioneer yet AGAIN and I was not nice this time because I spent decent money on this unit and it does not work even AFTER sending it out to them. The Customer service rep told me it was an installation issue.......ummmm NO, I know for a fact that it is not an installation issue, the symptoms do not fit their diagnosis.......not to mention most of these issues are known to happen with these models and yet they still will not issue a recall. The unit is not hacked in anyway not hardware or software. So they wanted me to send it out for repair again, which I refused to do, at this point if I cant get this fixed on my own I will just chuck it. I heard rumbling about how bad Pioneer Nav units are, but this is my first one for personal use, I went against my better judgment and picked one up...............big freaking mistake, I should have stayed with the Kenwood. Never in my life did I think Pioneer would release such a inferior product.
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06-24-09, 03:46 PM
#9
Lexus Test Driver
To answer your question I'm going back to Kenwood, not sure on which model yet but it is going to be a Kenwood or an Eclipse.
06-24-09, 06:49 PM
#12
Lexus Test Driver
No lemons, this happened to with 2 700 and my friends 900, check out AVIC411.com, you will see the 700 and 900 are LOADED with issues, I mean its your choice but these are the common issues with these models and I just wanted to give you a heads up.
06-24-09, 06:54 PM
#13
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Well I'll be a guinea pig myself... I'm getting a F90bt installed in my truck as we speak... prices were too low to pass up for the features on these (I guess if it works, lol).
I did a bunch of research as well and sounded like 2.0 fixed most all the issues. Will report back next weekend or next week after I use it a bit.
I did a bunch of research as well and sounded like 2.0 fixed most all the issues. Will report back next weekend or next week after I use it a bit.
06-24-09, 06:59 PM
#14
Lexus Test Driver
Well I'll be a guinea pig myself... I'm getting a F90bt installed in my truck as we speak... prices were too low to pass up for the features on these (I guess if it works, lol).
I did a bunch of research as well and sounded like 2.0 fixed most all the issues. Will report back next weekend or next week after I use it a bit.
I did a bunch of research as well and sounded like 2.0 fixed most all the issues. Will report back next weekend or next week after I use it a bit.
.I dont know if the F90 had any real issues, but I know the 700 and 900 are loaded with issues especially if you do any hacks to them.
I really hope you guys get ones that work awesome for you and make you happy. I know after 2 crappy 700's and a friends 900 turning into paper weights, followed by the tons of people having the same issues Pioneer is no longer a brand I will purchase ever. I'm sticking with Eclipse and Higher end Kenwoods
Good Luck guys
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