hankinid

Interesting read about another Subaru / Toyota joint venture...Toyota supplies running gear and Subaru the rest.

Possible 300 Series Subaru/Toyota...2020??

Dudley33

ndmiller

Not a chance, Quality, Capability and Durability the current mottos of the Land Cruiser would hardly apply in the same way to any Ford product. I drove the new explorer and expedition as rentals and while nice, they are not even close to a LC or the baby LC the Prado/GX. The squeaks and rattles happening in essentially new rentals was mind blowing, couldn't wait to get back into my LX.

T4Fun

LOL.

v8 old school is gone. TT LX 500 coming....it makes the most logical sense

Max707

T4Fun

yeah, why is that?

Ashron

To make it lighter, an aluminum frame would be the way to go. Strong, rust proof but yet, still a ladder frame and durable. I would not buy it with a V6 gasoline engine. It must have a V8 (or maybe as an option, have a very capable and powerful diesel engine). (I won'n but the new LS500 with the V6 either. I was in the market for a new luxury sedan but after driving the LS500 I was terribly disappointed). I hope they don't make the same mistake with the new LX. BTW, just saw the brand new Mercedes G-Class 63, AMG. Its beautiful and elegant. I never liked the old G-Class, but the new one is beautiful, has an interior similar to the S63 AMG and a very powerful engine. If Lexus wants to be considered a high-end luxury SUV (Which they are now) I suggest they go in a similar direction as the G-Class and not go cheap as they did with the LS500.

hankinid

With CAFE rules, I doubt we'll see a diesel, though I'd buy one in a minute.

IMO, the G-Wagen is not especially comfortable in town or on the freeway. Check a few utube comparos on the LX or Land Cruiser v. the G-Wagen...the Toyota always comes out as the winner.

ndmiller

Not a chance for an Aluminum frame, as Aluminum adds more drawbacks than the weight loss benefits give. Aluminum is very sensitive to bending; it work-embrittles very easily and distorts very easily, so any small "push dent" is far more likely to be a permanent irreparable dent than it would be in steel. Once aluminum has been bent once, it's extremely difficult to undo that bend without forming cracks.

Remember it's just a Land Cruiser and the US isn't the target market, so Toyota's doing their thing regardless. Just out of curiosity, why must it have a V8 for you to purchase, just personal preference? I would love similarly powerful turbo 6 with flat torque curve unaffected by elevation which of course weighs less adding performance (acceleration and braking). No cons as far as I can see, of course I'm assuming bulletproof engine regardless, so if thats the fear IMHO it's unwarranted.

I've driven the G-Class old and new and they are not even close to the reliability of the LC200 platform. Maybe more capable and luxurious initially, but after the mile and time wear on, it's in the shop more often than not. And when the warranty runs out you're up the creek....

ClaytonW

V8 for me, please. That's one of the reasons I still keep my old LS460 and don't want the new LS500. Just compared the new Lexus LC500 with 5.0 V8 and LS500 with 3.5 V6 biturbo. For me that's a really big difference. V8 sounds much better, it drives better...

ndmiller

FWIW, The LS's can't seat 7/8 or tow even with the V8. LS's drive very poorly compared to the LX570 which is the flagship of the brand and they certainly aren't as solidly made. One water crossing and the LS is floating away never to be seen again.

Max707

hankinid

I'd plan on a new turbo around 80-100K.

Ashron

My suggestion for Lexus to look at the new MBZ G-Wagon was to give them ideas of how beautiful and luxurious the LX could become. Especially on the inside. Obviously, Lexus should keep the new LX' ride as smooth and quiet as the current model. Reliability should be a given with the new LX. As for a V8 vs. the V6 and upgrading the interior, (middle row captain seats, maybe a 500 HP engine, etc) I think is a must since most of us buy it for the Luxury it offers. Range Rover has a turbo V6 and a Turbo V8 with 500+ HP. Maybe Lexus should offer two engines. After all, many of us love the V8 and are not too concerned about gas mileage or fuel costs.

hankinid

Range Rover may have turbo's, but also some of the worst reliability in the industry.