Battery
#16
Lexus Champion
We have owned 5 new Lexus vehicles so far, Kept them for the following numbers of years: 8-6-5-7-7.. When we traded in the first 3 they still had their original batteries. The 2 we currently own just passed into their 7th years, and both are still on their original Panasonic brand batteries. So, just based on limited experience with 5 new Lexus batteries, they have not proven to be "crap."
#17
Racer
We have owned 5 new Lexus vehicles so far, Kept them for the following numbers of years: 8-6-5-7-7.. When we traded in the first 3 they still had their original batteries. The 2 we currently own just passed into their 7th years, and both are still on their original Panasonic brand batteries. So, just based on limited experience with 5 new Lexus batteries, they have not proven to be "crap."
#18
Pole Position
We have owned 5 new Lexus vehicles so far, Kept them for the following numbers of years: 8-6-5-7-7.. When we traded in the first 3 they still had their original batteries. The 2 we currently own just passed into their 7th years, and both are still on their original Panasonic brand batteries. So, just based on limited experience with 5 new Lexus batteries, they have not proven to be "crap."
#19
While I never experienced the dead battery issue, it was listed as a warranty service item.
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REDHORSE (05-03-18)
#20
I had read about 3rd generation LX batteries dying after the vehicle was parked for long periods, so I asked the service manger at my dealer about the issue during my 6000 mile service. They installed the wiring, and gave me a Lexus branded battery tender - all without any cost to me.
While I never experienced the dead battery issue, it was listed as a warranty service item.
While I never experienced the dead battery issue, it was listed as a warranty service item.
#21
Pole Position
Is there a TSB on the free battery tender or just goodwill of YOUR Lexus dealership?
My LX570 battery keeps dying on me. Since we have multiple vehicles, the LX is the garage queen. If not driven for two weeks, the battery dies. The Lexus dealership checked it out TWICE and found nothing wrong.
Can you tell me my question above?
Thanks
My LX570 battery keeps dying on me. Since we have multiple vehicles, the LX is the garage queen. If not driven for two weeks, the battery dies. The Lexus dealership checked it out TWICE and found nothing wrong.
Can you tell me my question above?
Thanks
I had read about 3rd generation LX batteries dying after the vehicle was parked for long periods, so I asked the service manger at my dealer about the issue during my 6000 mile service. They installed the wiring, and gave me a Lexus branded battery tender - all without any cost to me.
While I never experienced the dead battery issue, it was listed as a warranty service item.
While I never experienced the dead battery issue, it was listed as a warranty service item.
#22
Pole Position
Is there a TSB on the free battery tender or just goodwill of YOUR Lexus dealership?
My LX570 battery keeps dying on me. Since we have multiple vehicles, the LX is the garage queen. If not driven for two weeks, the battery dies. The Lexus dealership checked it out TWICE and found nothing wrong.
Can you tell me my question above?
My LX570 battery keeps dying on me. Since we have multiple vehicles, the LX is the garage queen. If not driven for two weeks, the battery dies. The Lexus dealership checked it out TWICE and found nothing wrong.
Can you tell me my question above?
That said, you can find one at Wal Mart or any auto parts store for ~ $30 or so. Installation may take up to 10 minutes, and the only tool needed is a 10mm wrench or socket to remove the battery terminal nuts and connect the charging cable to the tender.
hth
#23
Just another note re: adding wiring to use a battery tender. I've posted all of this before. Connecting the battery tender quick connect wiring to the battery terminals is very easy for anyone with basic manual dexterity and an understanding of how not to shock yourself while dealing with a car battery. Where it got interesting for me was when I decided to re-route the dealer added battery tender wire.
My initial chouce was to run the wire through the grille, so I did not need to open the hood every time I wanted to conect the charger. The only ways I found to do this were (1) running the wire over the top of the radiator support, where it would be pinched when the hood was closed on it, or (2) running the the wire through an available opening between the engine bay and the grille; this opening was uncomfortably close to the fan blades.
After living with the pinched wire for a while, I decided to run a new wire through the firewall into the car interior. That was a challenge, but doable. I connected the wires from the battery to an aftermarket plug I installed under the dash. Now I can use a Battery Tender brand solar panel that I plug into that outlet, and place on the dash when the LX will be parked for a week or more. This is convenient and works for me because my LX lives outdoors. I left the through-the- grille cable in place so that I could use it when necessary.
This was a fair amount of time and effort in order to make an expensive "luxury" vehicle into a dependable starter. Luckily I am retired and have the time, and I enjoy wrenching on vehicles. As I posted before, I did determine that my LX does have a fairly significant parasitic power draw when compared to my other Lexus and my BMW. When the weather improves, starting to pull fuses to track down the source of the power draw is on my to-do list.
My initial chouce was to run the wire through the grille, so I did not need to open the hood every time I wanted to conect the charger. The only ways I found to do this were (1) running the wire over the top of the radiator support, where it would be pinched when the hood was closed on it, or (2) running the the wire through an available opening between the engine bay and the grille; this opening was uncomfortably close to the fan blades.
After living with the pinched wire for a while, I decided to run a new wire through the firewall into the car interior. That was a challenge, but doable. I connected the wires from the battery to an aftermarket plug I installed under the dash. Now I can use a Battery Tender brand solar panel that I plug into that outlet, and place on the dash when the LX will be parked for a week or more. This is convenient and works for me because my LX lives outdoors. I left the through-the- grille cable in place so that I could use it when necessary.
This was a fair amount of time and effort in order to make an expensive "luxury" vehicle into a dependable starter. Luckily I am retired and have the time, and I enjoy wrenching on vehicles. As I posted before, I did determine that my LX does have a fairly significant parasitic power draw when compared to my other Lexus and my BMW. When the weather improves, starting to pull fuses to track down the source of the power draw is on my to-do list.
#24
Lexus batteries are crap. I have had 4 in my 2011 LX. Either go to Lexus for a replacement and expect it to fail in 18months OR pull it out and put in a decent battery like an Odyssey. (no Optima's, they are crap now).
I have a 2007 LS460 with 180K miles on it. I replaced the battery 1.5 years ago at 150K. (no mods)
Also have a 2013 LX570 with 90K miles on it. Still OEM battery and no issue. (no mods).
I find Lexus to be very reliable in all aspects i'm not sure why you are having issue. Seems user issue to me (no offense).
#25
#26
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My LX570's battery went dead again last week (this is the second OEM Lexus replacement battery。 Prior to that had three AAA replacement batteries. All within 12 months period.). The selling Lexus dealership could not find what is wrong a few months ago and declared ALL OK.
Fast forward to last week...... battery went dead again. We took our LX to a much bigger Lexus dealership this time last week. It's been three
for over a week now and they have determined that there is a drain somewhere, but don't know where. We had bought the highest level of OEM Lexus EXTENDED WARRANTY when new (the original Lexus warranty is over). They originally said the extended warranty will cover this, but now telling us there "MIGHT" be a diagnostic charge of upwards of five hundred dollars plus depending on what they find..... I told them this is TOTAL BS!! Especially no mods on the LX570!!! And around 35K miles on odo (2013) ALL OEM.
Fast forward to last week...... battery went dead again. We took our LX to a much bigger Lexus dealership this time last week. It's been three
for over a week now and they have determined that there is a drain somewhere, but don't know where. We had bought the highest level of OEM Lexus EXTENDED WARRANTY when new (the original Lexus warranty is over). They originally said the extended warranty will cover this, but now telling us there "MIGHT" be a diagnostic charge of upwards of five hundred dollars plus depending on what they find..... I told them this is TOTAL BS!! Especially no mods on the LX570!!! And around 35K miles on odo (2013) ALL OEM.
To my knowledge, no TSB exists for a battery tender.
That said, you can find one at Wal Mart or any auto parts store for ~ $30 or so. Installation may take up to 10 minutes, and the only tool needed is a 10mm wrench or socket to remove the battery terminal nuts and connect the charging cable to the tender.
hth
That said, you can find one at Wal Mart or any auto parts store for ~ $30 or so. Installation may take up to 10 minutes, and the only tool needed is a 10mm wrench or socket to remove the battery terminal nuts and connect the charging cable to the tender.
hth
#27
Pole Position
Fast forward to last week...... battery went dead again. We took our LX to a much bigger Lexus dealership this time last week. It's been three
for over a week now and they have determined that there is a drain somewhere, but don't know where.
We had bought the highest level of OEM Lexus EXTENDED WARRANTY when new (the original Lexus warranty is over). They originally said the extended warranty will cover this, but now telling us there "MIGHT" be a diagnostic charge of upwards of five hundred dollars plus depending on what they find..... I told them this is TOTAL BS!! Especially no mods on the LX570!!! And around 35K miles on odo (2013) ALL OEM.
for over a week now and they have determined that there is a drain somewhere, but don't know where.
We had bought the highest level of OEM Lexus EXTENDED WARRANTY when new (the original Lexus warranty is over). They originally said the extended warranty will cover this, but now telling us there "MIGHT" be a diagnostic charge of upwards of five hundred dollars plus depending on what they find..... I told them this is TOTAL BS!! Especially no mods on the LX570!!! And around 35K miles on odo (2013) ALL OEM.
Were I you, I might be thinking of involving Lexus corporate, but I'd give the service manager a heads-up first before as a courtesy. If no response from SM, corporate will get you one.
#28
Pole Position
I don't know either what all this BS from them about can't find out what is wrong. I mean I bought the LX570 for the reliability (certainly this gen of LX is nowhere as good as my prior gen LX where we drive all the way to 280K+ miles before trading in for this new LX). If the reliability or TOP service is out the window, might as well get a Range Rover and keep it as long as the warranty is still good and get a new one every few years. The previous (selling) Lexus dealership last month said ALL good and nothing is wrong EXCEPT that we needed to drive the LX more often. But the battery drains dead in just one week to ten days!!! We have like 6 late model vehicles (4 of which are Lexus) so we don't really drive the LX EVERYDAY. (I know this is a first world problem, right?). So last month that dealership suggested a battery tender which I declined at that time and took back out LX thinking ALL OK until last week when we did not drive the LX for just one week and the battery died again!!
This time the current Lexus dealership had my LX for 7 FULL DAYS NOW AND STILL CAN NOT FIGURE THIS OUT!!! The LX is still there!!
Here is the text from the SA (name redacted):
"Hey XXXXXXXXXXX, i left you a VM earlier, the tech is going to need more diag time, he still cant figure out what keeps draining the battery, the price for the diag is $510, depending on what he finds, it might be additional, if the extended warranty covers it, then there is no charge to you."
My response:
"What do you mean "if the extended warranty covers it"? That's why we bought the extended warranty. "
SA's response:
"extended warranty doesn't cover 100% of the car, depending on what the technician finds, it might or might not cover it,"
My response:
"We bought the highest level of extended warranty offered by Lexus. EVERYTHING in our LX570 is OEM. IF there is a PARASITIC ELECTRICAL DRAIN A THEN IT IS A FACTORY DEFECT. Please work it out with the extended warranty. Thanks
So the LX570 is not ready for pickup tomorrow????
Who is the service manager and would you please give me his/her contact information? Thanks"
This time the current Lexus dealership had my LX for 7 FULL DAYS NOW AND STILL CAN NOT FIGURE THIS OUT!!! The LX is still there!!
Here is the text from the SA (name redacted):
"Hey XXXXXXXXXXX, i left you a VM earlier, the tech is going to need more diag time, he still cant figure out what keeps draining the battery, the price for the diag is $510, depending on what he finds, it might be additional, if the extended warranty covers it, then there is no charge to you."
My response:
"What do you mean "if the extended warranty covers it"? That's why we bought the extended warranty. "
SA's response:
"extended warranty doesn't cover 100% of the car, depending on what the technician finds, it might or might not cover it,"
My response:
"We bought the highest level of extended warranty offered by Lexus. EVERYTHING in our LX570 is OEM. IF there is a PARASITIC ELECTRICAL DRAIN A THEN IT IS A FACTORY DEFECT. Please work it out with the extended warranty. Thanks
So the LX570 is not ready for pickup tomorrow????
Who is the service manager and would you please give me his/her contact information? Thanks"
I cannot understand "don't know where"...you start with an ammeter connected across each fuse, inside and engine compartment, and see if current is passing with the truck turned off. Some will show no current, others a little (they're normally ok "keep-alive" fuses, and one or more may pass tons of current. Isolating the high current circuits with a wiring diagram will let the tech find each item fed by the fuse until the offenders are found and removed. It's PITA work that requires focus and no distractions.
Were I you, I might be thinking of involving Lexus corporate, but I'd give the service manager a heads-up first before as a courtesy. If no response from SM, corporate will get you one.
Were I you, I might be thinking of involving Lexus corporate, but I'd give the service manager a heads-up first before as a courtesy. If no response from SM, corporate will get you one.
#29
Pole Position
veery weird, keep us updated. I am on my 3rd LX and never had this issue but I read on the LS460 forum there is a member where apprenetly a rodent chewed some wires around/under the trunk area it was draining the battery.
#30
Pole Position
In my case, my avatar hunts with a couple of buddies...rodents can't get through their defensive lines around the house, and another 3-4 feral cats take care of the barn. Their defensive line works perfectly 24/7/365. We're less than half a mile from the Birds of Prey National Conservation Area so between the cats and eagles, hawks, and owls rodent's don't have a chance.