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Brand new 2017 LX570 Sluggish Not A Lot of Power

Old 08-19-17, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Some Toyota cars run fine with regular. The LX makes 383 whereas the LC makes 381. My 4Runner does not make the advertised 235hp from the 4.7 while using regular fuel. This is fact. It needs premium to achieve the 235 HP rating in 2004.
Sorry you felt the post "rude"...I've edited it.

Just trying to point out that regular v. premium, based on OPs statement that he hasn't used regular, is interesting but irrelevant.

So given OPs use of only premium fuel, what's your take on what's happening with his truck?
Old 08-19-17, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hankinid
Sorry you felt the post "rude"...I've edited it.
Apology accepted!
Originally Posted by hankinid
Sorry you felt the post "rude"...I've edited it.

Just trying to point out that regular v. premium, based on OPs statement that he hasn't used regular, is interesting but irrelevant.

So given OPs use of only premium fuel, what's your take on what's happening with his truck?
My take is that its somewhere in the required time as Lexus flat out states that the stated 0-60 time of 7.3 seconds is with prototype LX models using professional drivers, special procedures and premium 91 or higher. So the real performance spec is somewhere between 7.3 and 9 seconds.

Truthfully, this sounds like an I am using regular fuel situation that calls for premium. But it is the internet, so I guess I have to take the word that the OP is really using premium. Perhaps he should bump the octane up to 94.

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Old 08-19-17, 09:32 PM
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So how many HP on your Toyota 4Runner if you use REG fuel? Is it more than, say 25% less?



Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Some Toyota cars run fine with regular. The LX makes 383 whereas the LC makes 381. My 4Runner does not make the advertised 235hp from the 4.7 while using regular fuel. This is fact. It needs premium to achieve the 235 HP rating in 2004.



Kinda rude. Trying to just help.
Old 08-20-17, 06:40 AM
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At most premium would gain a few extra horsepower, not enough to change the 0-60 by even a quarter of a second.
Old 08-20-17, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by lexusrus
So how many HP on your Toyota 4Runner if you use REG fuel? Is it more than, say 25% less?
I believe the horsepower change is around 220hp.
Old 08-20-17, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ggebhardt
At most premium would gain a few extra horsepower, not enough to change the 0-60 by even a quarter of a second.
I disagree. You lose some torque and HP and the LX570 is over 6000 lbs. Add in the driver and you could be at 6200lbs. Lexus states on their 0-60 claims that premium or higher might of been used. My guess is that it was using 94 for the testing and the prototype test vehicles were used. Lexus flat out states in their manual, if premium is not used, performance will decrease.

Below is a video of 9.38 seconds. Like I said earlier, 7.3 is not really attainable for this vehicle.


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Old 08-20-17, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
My take is that its somewhere in the required time as Lexus flat out states that the stated 0-60 time of 7.3 seconds is with prototype LX models using professional drivers, special procedures and premium 91 or higher. So the real performance spec is somewhere between 7.3 and 9 seconds.

Truthfully, this sounds like an I am using regular fuel situation that calls for premium. But it is the internet, so I guess I have to take the word that the OP is really using premium. Perhaps he should bump the octane up to 94.
Why would OP say he's used premium exclusively if he's using regular?

Lexus shows 2 more horsepower for the 5.9 engine than Land Cruiser and Tundra, the truck for which the engine was originally designed. The 2 hp increase is something definitely not something you can feel via the seat of your pants. The ECU will adjust for octane differences...LXs and Cruisers in South America are lucky to get 87 octane, and they're not turtles by any means.

Read the first post in this thread. It sounds to me like OP has more going on than we know, and why keep posting what-ifs if dealer hasn't formed an opinion as to the cause of the issue(s).

OP, sorry for the massive thread hijack...maybe better to keep on topic.


Apologies to the OP for the thread-jacking.
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Just supercharge it. Problem solved.

And run E85 if the Premium gas is not giving you enough "oomph". Report back, curious what happens.
Old 08-20-17, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 97-SC300
Just supercharge it. Problem solved.

And run E85 if the Premium gas is not giving you enough "oomph". Report back, curious what happens.
It's > $7K, and Magnusson (sp?) doesn't offer tuning support for an SC...tha's an integral part of the installation.
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We have discussed supercharger, but one one here is able to find someone to install and tune it.
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Originally Posted by DocT
We have discussed supercharger, but one one here is able to find someone to install and tune it.
Sparks Motors, not sure of location, has done and tuned a number of installations. There's also a dealer someplace in SoCal, iirc, with SC kits and installation.

More info on mud in the 200 series forum.
Old 08-20-17, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hankinid
Sparks Motors, not sure of location, has done and tuned a number of installations. There's also a dealer someplace in SoCal, iirc, with SC kits and installation.

More info on mud in the 200 series forum.
Thank you for the info. but my desire to have SC is not for 3-ton truck and only local ( Northern CA). In case something goes wrong, I can just drive it there rather drag it to Southern Cal.
LC500 looks pretty sexy and obsessive at this time, and rumor that they will come out LC-F with SC. That is where I will put my monies in, not my 3-ton truck.

But let's not hijack the thread. Sorry for hijacking the thread.

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Old 08-20-17, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by hankinid

Read the first post in this thread. It sounds to me like OP has more going on than we know, and why keep posting what-ifs if dealer hasn't formed an opinion as to the cause of the issue(s).

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I don't think so. I have provided enough evidence that the LX570 is much slower in real world conditions than the claimed 7.3 time reported at Lexus.com Looks like the LX is a 9.0 second vehicle to based on the video that you seemed to just dismiss.

Oh well, I hope the OP has good luck in figuring it all out.
Old 08-20-17, 10:18 PM
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Huh??

Maybe I should just do a race 0 to 60 between my LX570 and my CT200h and see which one is faster as I got both? I got a feeling that my LX570 is a lot faster than my CT200h.

Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I don't think so. I have provided enough evidence that the LX570 is much slower in real world conditions than the claimed 7.3 time reported at Lexus.com Looks like the LX is a 9.0 second vehicle to based on the video that you seemed to just dismiss.

Oh well, I hope the OP has good luck in figuring it all out.
Old 08-22-17, 03:56 PM
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Our 17 LX is incredibly slow and sluggish as well. We bought it at the end of January, and it has been that way ever since. I just assumed thats how all of them are. It is so slow and sluggish that I have to make a conscious effort to not pull out in front of most traffic I would with our Range Rover Sport....or any of our other vehicles for that matter.
Maybe Ill bring this up next time I am in for service and see if they have any software updates. In my opinion, the vehicle is dangerously sluggish and slow. Other than that, its the perfect family vehicle.

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