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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 12:49 PM
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I recently took my 03 LS in for a four wheel alignment. Front toe was slightly off and adjusted to specs. Rear camber was -1.9 left and -2.1 right. Specified range is -1.8 to -.03 ; I was told that it could not be adjusted. The only way was to replace some parts. Anyone ever hear of this?
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Old May 10, 2010 | 06:17 PM
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I've got a 01 LS and mine is the same
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Old May 10, 2010 | 07:09 PM
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it is adjustable but only to a certain extent. After that you do need to replace parts to make it 100%. Personally I did not replace the parts on my car. It may wear the tires slightly quicker so just keep rotating/Balancing the tires and you should be fine. I have a 04 UL with 106k.
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Old May 10, 2010 | 10:30 PM
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Yes. One of the lower control links would need to be replaced.

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Old May 11, 2010 | 05:42 AM
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Thanks for the response. I didn't know if the alignment shop was wrong or not. They did say it was off such a minor amount that rotating the tires regularly would take care of any tire wear issues.
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Old May 12, 2010 | 02:53 PM
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When I lowered my 430UL, I had an alignment done and had the same results as you. The front was adjusted to specs, but the rear could not be adjusted. Lexus sells 3 different lengths of the rod that adjusts the rear camber. I used the shortest rods, and had the rear alignment done again. Installing the shorter rods brought the rear back into specs. If you install the rods and don't align you will wear out your tires very fast!
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Old May 17, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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whats up with these rods? where can i get some, and what are they called exactly? i lowered my car a lot on bc coilovers and am now getting some more noticeable camber wear on my rear wheels. i am looking for options to see how to fix this. thanks,
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Old May 17, 2010 | 05:25 PM
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whats up with these rods? where can i get some, and what are they called exactly? i lowered my car a lot on bc coilovers and am now getting some more noticeable camber wear on my rear wheels. i am looking for options to see how to fix this. thanks,

Didnt you just install the BC's like a couple weeks ago? You should not be seeing noticeable camber wear that fast unless your toe is wack. Most likely your getting toe out on the rears. Did you align after the installation?

I may be wrong but I think its these that were mentioned

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...layCatalogid=0

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Old May 18, 2010 | 04:48 AM
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well i already had noticeable camber wear before the coilovers due to riding low by other means. i just put on some new tires yesterday so i am going to get it aligned again soon. the last time i got the alignment, back in like march they said everything was fine except for a ever so slight toe in on the back left i believe. the only reason i am concerned is cuz i wore through the inside of the tire and looking at the rest of the tread it was like over 50% just the inside that wore down... i guess i should take corners a little slower. thanks for the link too.
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Old May 19, 2010 | 10:02 AM
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441, 446, or 451mm?? which would be the ones to correct a slight camber? also is this for 1 single item or 1 set?? $135 (hopefully this is for a set).
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Old May 19, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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No. If I'm not mistaken, it's for each (1). And trust me $135 is cheap (but depending on shipping costs). I work for a Toyota dealership and my pricing is more that $135 a piece.

The longger the arm, the more negative camber it will add. The 5mm difference in each arm adds/subtracts 45' (which converts to .75 degrees).
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Old May 24, 2010 | 09:09 AM
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is this the only part needed? just 1 arm on each side?? is installation difficult? has anyone done this before?
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Old May 24, 2010 | 01:02 PM
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Yes. As a matter of fact, I did it just yesterday. Total time shouldn't take more than 1-1.5 hours. Very simple.

I wanted more (negative) camber so I used the longest links (one size up from what I already had on). The camber is noticably different. Only thing is I now have to adjust the toe. The toe gets thrown way off with the longger adn shorter links.

Yes all you need is the links and 1 on each side.
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Old May 24, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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well i really don't mind camber at all aesthetically, in fact it looks kinda cool in some applications. just that now i'm scared of wearing through rear tires so quickly and am debating doing this mod/ fix... longer arms about $300, installation, depends... so is this worth the price of the tires it would chew up (btw i drive 2000 miles a month) or would it just make more sense to pay the $300+ and get it corrected?

also it looked flush finally with the 275's on and now i lost that with the 245's and this increases my camber too. but if i only get new 275's this will cost about $400+ and how long will these last with all that camber so maybe $300 to fix the camber isn't so bad.
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Old May 24, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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If you drive 2000 miles a month, I'd definately get the camber fixed. Due to all that driving your tires would eat up quickly and you'll probably be buying new tires every 6 months.

For me it's not as bad. I drive about 2 miles round trip every day.
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