Rhambler

This is kind of anecdotal on my part, but based on reading known car writers and magazines (and having owned one), in my opinion, Toyota, and by default Lexus, has a history of overstating their engine's capability. Conversely, BMW has a history (again, anecdotally), of understating their engine's capability.

Take C&D for example, their results of Toyota's products are typically slower than manufacturer stated times while their results are actually quicker for some German manufacturer stated times.

So, what are your guesses for the LS' ACTUAL or maybe C&D tested 0-60 time?

My guess: 5.0 seconds flat.

I know this is rather meaningless, but in today's world of overabundant yet practical SUVs and cheap gas, the only thing that cars and sedans have going for it versus SUVs are speed, power and driving characteristics.

jmull3r

iTrader: (1)

i think since the engine is new and has a lot of torque, it should be able to get to 60 in a reasonable amount of time, the LC is 4.6 seconds with more horsepower and less torque, so i this the LS could do it in 4.2-4.4 seconds with the added torque

Rhambler

Yeah I guessed 5 because of Toyota's history of overstating and the probably lighter Cadillac CT6, with its 400 HP V6, achieving 60 in a measly 5.2+ seconds. Actually more like 5.8 seconds.

plex

iTrader: (11)

0-60 may not be as big of a factor in the LS platform but if they put same motor in a LC-F or smaller, lighter F chassis it will matter more to some.

Rhambler

https://www.google.com/amp/www.carbu...Models-7740026

This is what Toyota should be doing instead of doing the opppsite.

Truth in numbers, plus it might actually make them do something about all of their slow cars if they were actually honest about it instead of reporting numbers no one will ever achieve.

And that's why the LS 500 will probably be no where near as fast as Toyota claims.

SW17LS

I don't think you can look at what Audi does with their high performance RS models and attribute that to what Lexus does with their LS flagship large luxury sedan.

Completely different sorts of vehicles, and completely different sort of buyer. Most large luxury sedan owners don't really care what their car does 0-60, they don't even know. You think somebody chose an S550 because of its 0-60 time? I couldn't even tell you what my LS460 does 0-60 or what anything else in the segment does 0-60...just don't care.

If I were the sort of buyer who would have interest in an S or RS Audi or an AMG Benz or an M BMW or an F Lexus I probably would, but I'm not, nor are the vast majority of flagship luxury car buyers.

Maybe Lexus should adopt that strategy for the LS-F if there is one, but for the regular LS500? Nobody cares.

plex

iTrader: (11)

Rhambler what is the point of this thread? It's obvious you're not a fan of the V6TT ever since you found out it will be in the new LS. Looks like you got rid of your LS460 based on your signature and made it a point to show that it was crossed out and replaced with a S7. Are you just here to bash Lexus/Toyota?

SW17LS

Question asked and answered

Rhambler

Guessing what the REAL performance may be is a more legitimate question than half the posts in this sub forum.

plex

iTrader: (11)

I will go out on a limb and say performance isn't one of the main reasons people by the LS, if a potential buyer wants a more powerful and faster luxury sedan in this class there are other options. But keep the fanfare going you seem bitter about something.

Rhambler

This is also why Lexus sedans are tanking in sales imo. I'm not saying performance is everything, but it's an important element when people cross shop. Also, when SUVs are so copious these days, the only thing cars can do better is performance, speed and power so I think this is an important question. I think Toyota understands as they were quick to point out that 4.5 time when they introduced this engine.

My question, since they seemingly overstate their performance figures, what will the real time be?