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Old 03-25-19, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RandyV
A good PDR place also does paint correction, son. Ask around!
Thats just not really accurate. PDR and paint work are entirely different things. My PDR guy is one of the best in the country, he flies all over the country training, etc. They don't do any paint work.

This damage needs to be addressed by a top notch bodyshop.

This is not going to be repaired well with a spot repair.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Thats just not really accurate. PDR and paint work are entirely different things. My PDR guy is one of the best in the country, he flies all over the country training, etc. They don't do any paint work.

This damage needs to be addressed by a top notch bodyshop.

This is not going to be repaired well with a spot repair.
I wonder. Let's say I didn't have insurance and paying $2k to repaint the side of the car wasn't an option. Seems there must be folks that can fill and sand down the scratch where it would be hard to see unless you were looking for it. You'd save all that labor tearing apart doors, trim, etc., and just focus on filling/painting and sanding.
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Originally Posted by DerrickM
I wonder. Let's say I didn't have insurance and paying $2k to repaint the side of the car wasn't an option. Seems there must be folks that can fill and sand down the scratch where it would be hard to see unless you were looking for it. You'd save all that labor tearing apart doors, trim, etc., and just focus on filling/painting and sanding.
It all depends on what you're willing to accept as a result of a repair. There is no way to make a scratch like that be invisible, you can make it look better, but the only way to get rid of it totally is to repaint the car. Your color is also one of the hardest colors to do that sort of touch up repair to.
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^^not correct. Carry on, I'm done.
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Originally Posted by RandyV
^^not correct. Carry on, I'm done.
I am absolutely correct. There is no way to make a touch up look perfect, especially on a metallic white car, certainly not over the entire length of the car. You'll always be able to see the scratch.

Here's a good video of the process you would use to "touch up" a key scratch. At the end, look at the result, its better but certainly not perfect:


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Originally Posted by RandyV
A good PDR place also does paint correction, son. Ask around!
Most PDR guys and shops here in Toronto don't have anything to do with painting

Also paint correction is more along the lines of detailing, wetsanding, polishing, buffing …..none of these can work on a scratch that has went through the clear coat

On a side note PDR is one skill im dying to learn how to do, I bought a pdr kit 2 years ago but never tested it out yet
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Originally Posted by RandyV
A good PDR place also does paint correction, son. Ask around!
Originally Posted by SW17LS
I am absolutely correct. There is no way to make a touch up look perfect, especially on a metallic white car, certainly not over the entire length of the car. You'll always be able to see the scratch.

Here's a good video of the process you would use to "touch up" a key scratch. At the end, look at the result, its better but certainly not perfect:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2aC_oseMe4
That guy AMMO has some decent videos sometimes, but he should of never uploaded that scratch video, it is the farthest thing from professional and is a total HACK job. Its so bad I actually never looked at him the same way after.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I am absolutely correct. There is no way to make a touch up look perfect, especially on a metallic white car, certainly not over the entire length of the car. You'll always be able to see the scratch.

Here's a good video of the process you would use to "touch up" a key scratch. At the end, look at the result, its better but certainly not perfect:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2aC_oseMe4
This scratch repair is good enough in an instance where you need your vehicle for a planned family road trip etc. When you come back you get it done thru insurance at a body shop where it would be tied up for a few weeks.




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I still can't believe people can be so mean. I can't imaging seeing a thing of beauty and wanting to mar it. Wtf is wrong with people.

Another week and a half before I drop it off at the body shop; makes me sad every time I see it...
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Originally Posted by 1WILLY1
Most PDR guys and shops here in Toronto don't have anything to do with painting

Also paint correction is more along the lines of detailing, wetsanding, polishing, buffing …..none of these can work on a scratch that has went through the clear coat

On a side note PDR is one skill im dying to learn how to do, I bought a pdr kit 2 years ago but never tested it out yet
I have a PDR kit and I ended up making things worse. The dents ended up being wavy looking
I found a PDR guy in my area are that is a true "Dent Wizard" He completely fixed a hard door ding on the crease line of my fender in 20 minutes at $140 vs body work and respray for $500. I can't even see where the dent was anymore! Then he fixed my wife's door that had two long 3 ft crease side swipes for $300.
My previous options were to get the body work done for $700 or find a used door at a junk yard for less.

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I bought a Harley Softtail at a repo auction with a dent in the tank. I have a PDR guy that is amazing. Here's the before and after pictures. Dents are one thing. Paintwork is a totally different animal.

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Originally Posted by JLAWS
I have a PDR kit and I ended up making things worse. The dents ended up being wavy looking
I found a PDR guy in my area are that is a true "Dent Wizard" He completely fixed a hard door ding on the crease line of my fender in 20 minutes at $140 vs body work and respray for $500. I can't even see where the dent was anymore! Then he fixed my wife's door that had two long 3 ft crease side swipes for $300.
My previous options were to get the body work done for $700 or find a used door at a junk yard for less.
yea they are great , its a skill im really interested in
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Makes me sick to read this thread. I wonder if you asked around to people at the skating area / greenbelt, if they had heard of anyone else's car having been keyed. And if so, if a dirtbag had been identified.
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I'm telling you ******* my PDR guy repainted the entire door panel - at his shop!

Jackholes.
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Originally Posted by 1WILLY1
yea they are great , its a skill im really interested in
I joked with my wife that the noises made while fixing the dent were just sound effects and he actually has a wand and magically made the dent disappear ! I was in disbelief for days and went to my garage and stared at the repair multiple times. It hasn't fully registered in my brain yet how he gets things so perfect.


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