2013 LS-460 L UL - Buy or not to buy
01-31-19, 05:45 AM
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Do you have a link, did you go on the Lexus owners site and check the history. I would still get a PPI done, maybe at a different Lexus dealership or Toyota dealership or a indy you really trust. I would not pay $2500 for a extended warranty, air suspension is always a risk you have to consider.
01-31-19, 05:47 AM
#17
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02-01-19, 12:49 PM
#19
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02-03-19, 07:01 AM
#20
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The car was sold to another customer. My shopping continues..
The car had these options.
AP
Advanced Pre-Collision Sys with All Speed Dynamic Radar Cruise Ctrl, Active Pedestrian Detection Sys w/infrared cameras, Driver Attention Monitor, Lane Keep Assist & low-speed Collision Avoidance Assist
AS
Adaptive Variable Air Suspension w/Variable Gear Ratio Steering, Comfort & SportS+ Drive Modes
BM
Blind Spot Monitor w/Rear Cross Traffic Alert
CK
All Weather Pkg: Windshield-wiper deicer/headlamp washer/Enhanced int. heater/High capacity battery
FY
19" split-seven-spoke alloy wheels with high- gloss finish and all-season tires
IL
LED Headlamps w/intelligent high-beams & washers
IR
Shimamoku Espresso Ebony Wood
LU
Semi-Aniline Leather Trim Int/Alcantara Headliner
ML
Mark Levinson 19-spkr w/Single DVD/CD player
UL
Ultra Luxury Pkg: Climate-comfort fr & rr outboard rr seats, 4-zone climate ctrl, Incl: rr overhead ducts, Climate Concierge, Pwr rr & rr-door sun- shades, Pwr-adjustable outboard rr seats w/memory, 2-way pwr lumbar support & lumbar massage, Pwr- adjustable outboard rr butterfly headrests, Wood- trimmed climate & audio ctrls in rr-center armrest Rr-seat air purifier/cool box & seat-mounted side airbags (SRS)
WT
Heated Wood Steering Wheel w/Leather Center Pad
Z2
Cargo Net, Trunk Mat, Whl Locks & Rear Bumper App
Is AP(Advanced Pre-Collision Sys ,LKA) a good upgrade . Is it worth the money ?? any reviews about this feature ?
The car had these options.
AP
Advanced Pre-Collision Sys with All Speed Dynamic Radar Cruise Ctrl, Active Pedestrian Detection Sys w/infrared cameras, Driver Attention Monitor, Lane Keep Assist & low-speed Collision Avoidance Assist
AS
Adaptive Variable Air Suspension w/Variable Gear Ratio Steering, Comfort & SportS+ Drive Modes
BM
Blind Spot Monitor w/Rear Cross Traffic Alert
CK
All Weather Pkg: Windshield-wiper deicer/headlamp washer/Enhanced int. heater/High capacity battery
FY
19" split-seven-spoke alloy wheels with high- gloss finish and all-season tires
IL
LED Headlamps w/intelligent high-beams & washers
IR
Shimamoku Espresso Ebony Wood
LU
Semi-Aniline Leather Trim Int/Alcantara Headliner
ML
Mark Levinson 19-spkr w/Single DVD/CD player
UL
Ultra Luxury Pkg: Climate-comfort fr & rr outboard rr seats, 4-zone climate ctrl, Incl: rr overhead ducts, Climate Concierge, Pwr rr & rr-door sun- shades, Pwr-adjustable outboard rr seats w/memory, 2-way pwr lumbar support & lumbar massage, Pwr- adjustable outboard rr butterfly headrests, Wood- trimmed climate & audio ctrls in rr-center armrest Rr-seat air purifier/cool box & seat-mounted side airbags (SRS)
WT
Heated Wood Steering Wheel w/Leather Center Pad
Z2
Cargo Net, Trunk Mat, Whl Locks & Rear Bumper App
Is AP(Advanced Pre-Collision Sys ,LKA) a good upgrade . Is it worth the money ?? any reviews about this feature ?
Last edited by jagz; 02-03-19 at 07:10 AM.
02-03-19, 08:30 AM
#21
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Yeah cars like that equipped that way don't last long.
02-03-19, 08:34 AM
#22
That's a rare car. I'd venture to say only 10% of production is equipped in a similar fashion. Maybe less Your offer was just too low. Remember, whatever MMR is (wholesale) there is at least another $400 dealer pack on top of that. That's the actual wholesale number Anything the dealer has to do to the car is added to the bottom line as well.. A safe rule is to add $1k to 1.5k to MMR and start there. If it's a rare car you may need to adjust accordingly.
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02-03-19, 09:00 AM
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That's a rare car. I'd venture to say only 10% of production is equipped in a similar fashion. Maybe less Your offer was just too low. Remember, whatever MMR is (wholesale) there is at least another $400 dealer pack on top of that. That's the actual wholesale number Anything the dealer has to do to the car is added to the bottom line as well.. A safe rule is to add $1k to 1.5k to MMR and start there. If it's a rare car you may need to adjust accordingly.
02-03-19, 09:27 AM
#24
That was a very rare car, especially given the Flaxen interior. Someone got a pretty good deal. The Advanced Pre-Collision System was quite pricey at more than 5 grand and is usually only found on cars also equipped with the Ultra Luxury Package. The original MSRP would have been right at $100,000.
02-04-19, 01:08 AM
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That was a very rare car, especially given the Flaxen interior. Someone got a pretty good deal. The Advanced Pre-Collision System was quite pricey at more than 5 grand and is usually only found on cars also equipped with the Ultra Luxury Package. The original MSRP would have been right at $100,000.
I am attaching the window sticker for my car with these options. It was generated three years ago by a CL member, rld14, who was a sales manager at a Lexus dealership. The sticker has a detailed breakdown of the packages and their prices. The only thing in the description that is incorrect is the active pedestrian detection system with infrared cameras (Lexus Nightview) that was discontinued in the 2014 MY and not found in my car.
02-04-19, 07:28 AM
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That's a rare car. I'd venture to say only 10% of production is equipped in a similar fashion. Maybe less Your offer was just too low. Remember, whatever MMR is (wholesale) there is at least another $400 dealer pack on top of that. That's the actual wholesale number Anything the dealer has to do to the car is added to the bottom line as well.. A safe rule is to add $1k to 1.5k to MMR and start there. If it's a rare car you may need to adjust accordingly.
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02-04-19, 08:49 AM
#27
I found out to late what a good deal on a 460 L as well. It was at the very beginning of my process and I needed to think about it for 24 hours and it was gone. Have not seen one with that configuration since. There are just so few that if you find one at the start of your search you think you can find another one just as good but then.. Anyways you will find one that will be just right for you.
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02-04-19, 12:12 PM
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I found a black on black 2013 LS460L in Kentucky with all the same features with 75,000miles on it for $41,000
. It was in a minor fender bender, but I did a check on the service records to see if everything was up to date and if any repairs were done. Everything was to my satisfaction, but the price. I was trading in my old 2015 white with black interior Hyundai Sonata 2.0t fully loaded with a little over 35,000miles on it. I was about $17,000 upside down
, because of my last trade which was a 2013 Toyota Avalon LTD hybrid that I only had for about 6 months
. Anyways miraculously I ended up getting the car for $41,000, because the dealership bought the car down to $27,900. This dealership did some type of wizardry with the banks or whomever to get me an awesome deal . The interest rate was 9%, but I eventually refinanced before my first payment and got it down to %5 with Navy Federal Credit Union.
. It was in a minor fender bender, but I did a check on the service records to see if everything was up to date and if any repairs were done. Everything was to my satisfaction, but the price. I was trading in my old 2015 white with black interior Hyundai Sonata 2.0t fully loaded with a little over 35,000miles on it. I was about $17,000 upside down, because of my last trade which was a 2013 Toyota Avalon LTD hybrid that I only had for about 6 months. Anyways miraculously I ended up getting the car for $41,000, because the dealership bought the car down to $27,900. This dealership did some type of wizardry with the banks or whomever to get me an awesome deal . The interest rate was 9%, but I eventually refinanced before my first payment and got it down to %5 with Navy Federal Credit Union.
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