jagz

In the market for a 2013 + LS 460
Thinking between a LS 460 F-Sport or a LS 460 LWB , which one is better value?

SW17LS

Which do you prefer? I've never had an F Sport but it doesn't appeal to me. I have had a SWB LS460 and a LWB LS460 and I much prefer the LWB.

lizhekb

Searosis

I went with the L over the F sport due to the rear seating space and really did not like how "grabby" the Brembo brakes were at low speed. Also the fact that the F sport has no wood trim turns me off. If I am driving a flagship luxury car it should have luxury feel.

comotiger

Mmmm, I thought one can get the F-sport with wood trim on the dash. Check out the 2010 F-sport pics in post #23 of the thread below. I love that bamboo/matte wood finish on the dash.

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...-ls600h-l.html

Dave144239

The pre-'13 models had an optional Sport package, but they are not the same as the F-Sport that you see from 2013 onward. The F-Sports didn't come with wood trim.

The bamboo is my favorite interior trim too. If I ever upgrade to a 460L I'm going to look for that.

SW17LS

In order to get an F Sport 13+ with wood trim you need to get a crafted line, or a midnight edition.

bigsherv

I have an F Sport and love it but when I see the LWB I always like how stately they look.

jagz

I'm now slightly more tilted towards the LWB. I also own a e46 m3, so can have best of both worlds !!

703

Find a Ls600L with tan seats and bamboo trim. It almost has a Bentley feel to it.

Oliver Enterprises

My $0.02 worth, let me know if you need change back!

• How much "SPORT" does one get with the Sport?
  • It's a friggin land barge either way for Pete's sake (which is a compliment in my opinion).
  • The amount of "SPORT" received in my opinion seems rather small.
  • And, the usefulness of that amount of "SPORT" on the street is probably even smaller.

Contrarily

• How much LENGTH or LUXURIOUSNESS does one get with the L?
  • Every single time someone rides in the back of my LS, I hear the following,
  • Oh, there's so much space back here. This is nice!
  • And the extra length actually in and of itself makes the car look long and low. The profile is much more commanding with an L (IMHO).

Don't get me wrong. I like the Sport. But Sport versus L, IMHO, the L wins HANDS DOWN. Would be cool to have a L SPORT.

Kennyr44

Everyone who gets in my short version back seat thinks its huge. Also the sport in a LS460 is to me nothing more than squeaky brakes. I'm not a fan of either. And don't get me started on air suspension. AWD only if absolutely necessary.

SW17LS

Having had the SWB and the LWB, I'd pick the LWB every time. I liked my SWB car, but I LOVE my LWB car.