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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 05:44 PM
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I agree with a lot of what's been said here. Dealer automotive techs in 2018 don't actually repair anything, they just replace with new parts, so the tech diagnosis of a dead tranny isn't worth much. Was the filter also changed during this flush? I think it's worth dumping all of the fluid again, change out the filter, give everything a good once over to ensure nothing visible is clogged and refill with new fluid at the proper level. It is very possible that gunk got dislodged during the flush and is now somewhere it isn't supposed to be causing issues. Why not try a second drain? I've had some strange experiences with transmissions after a drain. On a BMW 540 I drained and changed out filters quickly as I had many other times, but once the new filter didn't have an o-ring on the neck which I didn't notice. It caused all kinds of slipping issues. Once I opening everything back up and repeated I realized my mistake. The point is a very small oversight could be causing your issue and sometimes just repeating the process carefully is all that needs to be done.
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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 07:26 PM
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I agree with a lot of what's been said here. Dealer automotive techs in 2018 don't actually repair anything, they just replace with new parts, so the tech diagnosis of a dead tranny isn't worth much. Was the filter also changed during this flush? I think it's worth dumping all of the fluid again, change out the filter, give everything a good once over to ensure nothing visible is clogged and refill with new fluid at the proper level. It is very possible that gunk got dislodged during the flush and is now somewhere it isn't supposed to be causing issues. Why not try a second drain? I've had some strange experiences with transmissions after a drain. On a BMW 540 I drained and changed out filters quickly as I had many other times, but once the new filter didn't have an o-ring on the neck which I didn't notice. It caused all kinds of slipping issues. Once I opening everything back up and repeated I realized my mistake. The point is a very small oversight could be causing your issue and sometimes just repeating the process carefully is all that needs to be done.
I agree with this, particularly the part about dealers just want to replace and not repair.
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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 07:31 PM
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I agree with this, particularly the part about dealers just want to replace and not repair.
This is absolutely true, especially Lexus techs, Its what they're trained to do. I guarantee somebody can repair this transmission...
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Old Sep 20, 2018 | 09:57 AM
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This is absolutely true, especially Lexus techs, Its what they're trained to do. I guarantee somebody can repair this transmission...
100% agree. The OP doesn't seem to think that this is an option based on what the dealer is telling them. Other options need to be explored. The dealer doesn't have your best interest in mind.

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Old Sep 20, 2018 | 10:00 AM
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And I can’t believe the refusal to consider going after the Toyota dealer for this.
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Old Sep 20, 2018 | 10:28 AM
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I would never do a private sale to innocent buyer ...
Nor would I. But as sure as I'm typing here, I'd sure let a dealer have it. A dealer should discover that problem before being resold. What they do about that problem, I could care less. When a customer comes along to buy it, generally every state has laws that govern warranty on used car sales from a dealer. I think minimally, used cars sold commercially have a 30 day warranty (not an expert, but that's what I understand). Some dealers that are as much as 1 I.Q. point higher than a chimpanzee may advertise this (state required) warranty as if they are offering it as an option. And some dealers even offer some amount of warranty over and above what is required when sold commercially.

Of course, I seriously wouldn't be surprised if such a trade in becomes CERTIFIED PRE-OWNED inventory from a car wash only. Dealers are beyond that crooked.
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Old Sep 20, 2018 | 10:31 AM
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Lots of assuptions going on here.

I'm gonna say this again. I just want to have ALL the facts.

I just dropped the car off for Diagnosis.

I do plan on getting my money back for this from these places.
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Old Sep 20, 2018 | 10:55 AM
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1NSIGHT - You're correct. I do tend to make assumptions. However, I think your reasoning is logical, and do not question your direction. And I appreciate of the thread, because I would have been gung-ho on a flush. Now, I will avoid it. Just a drain and top off at most.

Oh, and if you haven't downloaded the Carista app, I strongly recommend it. Out of the thousands of years I've been exposed to "apps," the Carista app is the only one I have purchased. And it was worth the money (around $15 if memory serves) and then some. You can check your own codes, and clear them. And customize your vehicle in ways to which the vehicle will not give you access. But for your situation, it's the codes that would be of interest.
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Old Sep 20, 2018 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 1NSIGHT
Lots of assuptions going on here.

I'm gonna say this again. I just want to have ALL the facts.

I just dropped the car off for Diagnosis.

I do plan on getting my money back for this from these places.
Keep us informed, make sure you have them point out and type exactly what is wrong. Don't agree to any repairs/replacements yet either even if they offer a "special deal" for getting it done right away. Contact BG and Toyota/Lexus corporate once you have all the information and fight for it but be calm and don't loose your temper, rehearse or write down what you are going to say, and ways to counter when they try to blame it on you or get out of it which is likely to happen. Last resort is to contact a lawyer/small claims court, it does not hurt to at least be informed of your options/cost even if you don't want to go through legal action.
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Nor would I. But as sure as I'm typing here, I'd sure let a dealer have it. A dealer should discover that problem before being resold. What they do about that problem, I could care less. When a customer comes along to buy it, generally every state has laws that govern warranty on used car sales from a dealer. I think minimally, used cars sold commercially have a 30 day warranty (not an expert, but that's what I understand). Some dealers that are as much as 1 I.Q. point higher than a chimpanzee may advertise this (state required) warranty as if they are offering it as an option. And some dealers even offer some amount of warranty over and above what is required when sold commercially.

Of course, I seriously wouldn't be surprised if such a trade in becomes CERTIFIED PRE-OWNED inventory from a car wash only. Dealers are beyond that crooked.
I traded in a Mercedes with a bad transmission. Dealer didn't even test drive the car, so that's their own fault. They had the car on their lot two days later for nearly double what they gave me. I doubt they even drove the car before relisting it. Anyone who test drove the car would have noticed the issue a few minutes into the drive.
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Old Sep 21, 2018 | 09:53 AM
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I wonder what the Diagnosis is
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Old Sep 21, 2018 | 10:07 AM
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I wonder what the Diagnosis is
Agreed. OP, please let us know an update on the diagnosis and what can be done. Thanks and good luck 👍
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Old Sep 21, 2018 | 10:58 AM
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Made my claim with BG and Toyota corporate. So hopefully they will figure out who pays what.

The transmission service center quoted me on a repair cost. They have not done any work yet but I'm in a rental car so that kinda sucks.

Edit: My vehicle is over the milage for the BG claim which I figured was the case. It states 100k as was posted earlier.

Now the only claim I have currently is with Toyota since they did the service.

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Old Sep 21, 2018 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 1NSIGHT
Made my claim with BG and Toyota corporate. So hopefully they will figure out who pays what.

The transmission service center quoted me on a repair cost. They have not done any work yet but I'm in a rental car so that kinda sucks.

Edit: My vehicle is over the milage for the BG claim which I figured was the case. It states 100k as was posted earlier.

Now the only claim I have currently is with Toyota since they did the service.
What did the transmission service say was wrong? Did they thoroughly diagnose it and explain exactly what they found? How much is the repair? That sucks BG will not make a exception in your case, hopefully Toyota will. If they keep try to give the mileage excuse tell them your mileage is not that high considering how long these cars last/people put on them and the transmission was fine before the service, fight for it. Tell them regardless of mileage it is still going to cost me the same to replace or fix the transmission in my car and it was brought in, in perfect working condition and now needs transmission repairs after what you did, you were never warned or denied the service, etc. If Toyota denies even after you fight for it I would contact a lawyer. If/when you get the transmission repaired make sure it has a good warranty and read the fine print, if their warranty is only a year or two you might want to take it somewhere else.
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Old Sep 21, 2018 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by UDel
What did the transmission service say was wrong? Did they thoroughly diagnose it and explain exactly what they found? How much is the repair? That sucks BG will not make a exception in your case, hopefully Toyota will. If they keep try to give the mileage excuse tell them your mileage is not that high considering how long these cars last/people put on them and the transmission was fine before the service, fight for it. Tell them regardless of mileage it is still going to cost me the same to replace or fix the transmission in my car and it was brought in, in perfect working condition and now needs transmission repairs after what you did, you were never warned or denied the service, etc. If Toyota denies even after you fight for it I would contact a lawyer. If/when you get the transmission repaired make sure it has a good warranty and read the fine print, if their warranty is only a year or two you might want to take it somewhere else.
I figured BG warranty wouldn't cover the car before I made a claim to them. The car is 44k over their milage. It would be different if it was 4k.

The transmission shop hasn't taken the transmission pan off yet they will do that Monday. I spoke with them and they wont know 100% until they open it up. The owner has been extremely candid on the situation and has stated that the transmission will probably not need a complete rebuild.

Best case just needs to be cleaned out.
Second best case new solenoids. The ****ing solenoids are expensive as hell.
Worst case they have to rebuild which agian seems unlikely.
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