riknchar

I'm about ready to have new brakes put on my 2010 LS600hL, and wanted to get some last-minute ordering advice from the smart mechanics on this forum. My car has 67K miles, and the last time it was inspected by the Lexus dealer the report was that the brake pads were worn a bit under 50%. I definitely get a pulsing sensation when I try to brake smoothly to a stop (which I'm sure is caused by warped rotors). So I think the time is right! I have a trusted Lexus independent shop who says the brake job will cost $180 for labor, which seems pretty fair to me. They are fine with me bringing my own parts for the job. So now I just need to make sure I'm ordering the right stuff (and everything I need).

Based on everything I've read on the forum, it sounds like my best bet is to go with the Centric Posi-Quiet Ceramic pads. I believe the correct Centric part numbers for my 2010 LS600hL are 105.1282 and 105.1283 (at least those are the P/Ns on Amazon which say they are a fit for my car). For the Centric rotors, I believe the right P/Ns are Centric 120.44151 (front right), 120.44150 (front left), 120.44152 (rear left) and 120.44153 (rear right). Does that all sound right? From Amazon Prime (free 2-day shipping), I'm coming up with a total cost of $340 for these parts. Is that a good deal? I priced theme on Rock Auto's web site, and they were a bit higher, I think.

Also, do I need to buy anything else to take to my mechanic for this work? Will the brake wear sensors probably be reusable, or do I need to order replacements?

Thanks for any advice/confirmation I can get!

TriC

I take it that you are talking only about replacing the front brakes. It is an easy DIY, but if you're uncomfortable doing it, $180 doesn't seem out of line. Parts cost what they cost and it's usually hard to do better than Rock Auto. Your wear indicators should be fine (if they are not part of the new pads). You might want to replace the brake fluid at the same time if it hasn't been done recently.

caha14

Hi Rick, not to muddy the waters here, but... have you tried to brake under the same scenario that causes pulsation (same speed, etc.) with the car in Neutral?

As you know, that's the only way to ensure on the 600 that the service brakes are doing 100% of the braking. Otherwise, the drivetrain is involved, and I (and others) have experienced a shudder in braking similar to warped rotors but unrelated to the brakes. Maximus is in the shop, as I write.

If your pads are worn, that's a different story, of course, but given your mention of pulsation, I thought you may want to try that braking experiment, FWIW.

DJWLDW

Rick

You might want to pick up some new hardware kits for front and rear as long as you are replacing everything. The hardware kits for my 2010 LS 460L (non touring package) were: Front Centric 11744085 and Rear: Centric 11744086. I am not sure if the LS 600 has the same equipment as the 460L

Dennis

Kuhan

sktn77a

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Honestly, I think you have quite a bit of mileage left in your pads (its a hybrid with regenerative braking - another 60k?) - I'd just get the front rotors machined - that should get rid of the pulsation.

SW17LS

I wouldn't resurface the OEM rotors. They're poor quality as it is, and the pulsation will just come back. I'd replace the rotors and the pads, the parts are cheap and the labor is basically the same.

sktn77a

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I had the rotors on my '07 machined after they started pulsating at ~80k - plenty of life left in both the pads and rotors. They were fine after that. I realize that machining them makes them thinner and possibly more susceptible to warping but I didn't have that problem in over 20k miles (when I sold the car). But there alre always choices.

SW17LS

When you consider that a new rotor is like $60, I don't see much point in resurfacing them.

sktn77a

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True, you can get them that cheap (each), but for those of us who don't wrench our own cars any longer, an OEM pair will cost upwards of $250 plus labor. And a dealer will charge over $600, whereas they'll machine the front rotors for about $120. In any event, the OP has plenty of options.

SW17LS

jgscott

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I never have rotors machined. Its thins them out. I have been using the Autozone Black High Carbon rotors. They are far less expensive than the Manufactures and stronger and quieter. I do use the stock Manufactures pads with them.

riknchar

Thanks for all the advice, forum members! I tend to agree that there's not much sense in machining the rotors, since the OEM rotors are known to warp easily. The price for new Centric rotors and pads is low enough that it simply makes the most sense to just replace everything, especially since my mechanic will do the work for $180 (to replace both front and back brakes and rotors). I mainly just wanted to confirm that I had picked out the right parts, from someone who has replaced the brakes with the Centric setup for their LS600hL.

Thanks for another perspective on the possible source of the pulsation, CaHa. I'm pretty sure that this (very minor) pulsation is coming from warped rotors, and not the drivetrain. The pads are <50% now, so it makes sense to replace them soon anyway. I'll probably wait until the car is due its next oil change to have the work done, since the problem is fairly minor. I'm not driving the LS all that much right now, as the weather has been nice in Omaha this summer and I'm driving my SC430 as often as I can.