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Old 06-28-18, 07:39 AM
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Question AC blowing out black foam pieces


From time to time, AC vents blow out pieces of black foams as shown in photo.
Seems AC duct insulation is breaking apart
2009 LS460 94k miles, Texas.
Old 06-28-18, 08:46 AM
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Haven't seen this from mine yet, 2010 w/ 107K in Texas
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I’d start by checking your cabin filter - very weird
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Looks like your "foam gaskets" that are around the vents are deteriorating from sun and heat....... As the car gets older the rubber compounds break down and the foam rubber falls apart.
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Have you had your dash apart at any point in recent history?
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Originally Posted by 213374U
Have you had your dash apart at any point in recent history?
Not that i know of.
My current workplace does not have covered parking, so the LS460 was parked in the open parking lot during the day for the past 4 years in the extreme heat of Texas. It must has been very hard. During that period, roof rail trim piece's paint/wrapping peeled away, door armrests become sticky, headlights' plastic cover clouded up a bit & paint suffered a bit as well.
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Could it be mice? Rodents chewed my cabin air filter (on a different car) and the debris came out my air conditioning ducts.

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Originally Posted by davedudu
Could it be mice? Rodents chewed my cabin air filter (on a different car) and the debris came out my air conditioning ducts.
Cabin filters are paper element type, not foam...... And YES! rodents are a huge problem that can cause major damage to wiring and interiors.
I suggest opening the windows and turn the blower fan on the high setting and blow any loose/deteriorating foam out of the ducts out for three minutes....... Sadly this problem will continue until all the foam falls apart.
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It's the foam gaskets for the vent openings deteriorating.

My wife's '02 RX 300 started doing this at about year 10. It'll stop, but be careful picking those pieces up, they'll stain should you crush them against something.

Your own fingers are no problem, but I can see people trying to pinch them between a finger and say, carpet, leaving a dark spot on light carpet.

It'll stop after a few years. In my wife's car's case, it was Vegas which did it in.

The headlamp covers starting to cloud, however, is UV, not heat. They can be brought back to clear, but you've gotta keep an anti-UV coating on them to prevent them fogging up.

Mine are starting to do the same, because no covered parking at work, and I've been lazy about keeping a UV blocker on them. At least the hail damage is unchanged since I bought it...
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texas008 - I did some Lexus RX 330 (called 483N in Toyota world) liaison work for Japanese coworkers. Part of what I did was the ductwork for the vehicles. On many vehicles, especially luxury vehicles, urethane foam pads are placed inside the vents in elbow locations. Meaning a worker either has to reach in the duct and place the foam pad via adhesive on the backside of the foam pad, or a tool is used to reach far enough up the duct to place the foam pad in the correct location. The reason urethane foam is place inside the ducts is it reduces the whooshing noise of the air through the vents as it hits a wall and changes direction.

My guess is that it is that foam that is coming out. Not a big deal. I doubt the whole thing will come out, just pieces. The root cause would be the combination of age and heat cycles. Park the car in the sun and the car gets hot, turn on the A/C and everything that is exposed to cold air cools off. Do that thousands of times and it causes wear.

I remember this vividly because the drawing had Kanji (so I didn't know what it was saying), and my Japanese coworker pronounced urethane foam to where it sounded EXACTLY like "written form." It took me a LONG time to figure out what he was talking about.
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Old 07-02-18, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by texas008

From time to time, AC vents blow out pieces of black foams as shown in photo.
Seems AC duct insulation is breaking apart
2009 LS460 94k miles, Texas.
I have the same problem if you want to call it a problem with my '11. My advice...don't sweat the small stuff.
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