2012 LS600hL
02-21-18, 03:03 PM
#1
Instructor
Thread Starter
2012 LS600hL
Hello forum friends! My search for my next LS continues. I’ve honestly been all over the map with my search, looking hard at a 2008 LS460L for $17,900 (almost pulled the trigger on that one) and also nearly striking a deal on a 2010 LS460L AWD ($21,900 at Lexus of Omaha).
i just discovered a pretty nice looking deal on a 2012 LS600hL (located at a Porsche dealer in Atlanta). Car has nearly every available option, including the Executive seating package, is a 1-owner, and has 66k miles. Being offered now at at $38,900. I offered $34k to see how badly the dealer wanted to sell, and they came back saying that’s just a bit too aggressive for them at this point (but made it sound like it wasn’t far off).
here’s the link: https://porscheatlantaperimeter.com/...tallic+1729775
The Carfax reports damage last year to the rear end, but no actual accident history. The detailed Lexus service history shows a perfect service record, with every 5k service completed on time. Looks like some minor body damage back in 2012 also, but repaired by the Lexus dealer.
KBB shows retail of $38,500 roughly. I’m not sure I want to risk the hybrid battery failure, but I did really love my 2008 LS600hL and regret trading it in last year. I really like the instrument cluster on the 2012s!
If I could convince my local Lexus dealer to bring this one in and Certify it, I could buy the extended CPO warranty and have it fully covered until 2025.
Any thoughts from the forum on this one? Thanks!
i just discovered a pretty nice looking deal on a 2012 LS600hL (located at a Porsche dealer in Atlanta). Car has nearly every available option, including the Executive seating package, is a 1-owner, and has 66k miles. Being offered now at at $38,900. I offered $34k to see how badly the dealer wanted to sell, and they came back saying that’s just a bit too aggressive for them at this point (but made it sound like it wasn’t far off).
here’s the link: https://porscheatlantaperimeter.com/...tallic+1729775
The Carfax reports damage last year to the rear end, but no actual accident history. The detailed Lexus service history shows a perfect service record, with every 5k service completed on time. Looks like some minor body damage back in 2012 also, but repaired by the Lexus dealer.
KBB shows retail of $38,500 roughly. I’m not sure I want to risk the hybrid battery failure, but I did really love my 2008 LS600hL and regret trading it in last year. I really like the instrument cluster on the 2012s!
If I could convince my local Lexus dealer to bring this one in and Certify it, I could buy the extended CPO warranty and have it fully covered until 2025.
Any thoughts from the forum on this one? Thanks!
02-21-18, 03:46 PM
#2
Lexus Test Driver
MIleage is a tad high, decent service history every 7-8k miles but how about this all-the-options-except-AWD 13 LS460L?
https://www.mosssuperstore.com/vehic...GL1EF6D5048120
If my wife would let me, I'd seriously consider the 13 in a heartbeat...
https://www.mosssuperstore.com/vehic...GL1EF6D5048120
If my wife would let me, I'd seriously consider the 13 in a heartbeat...
02-21-18, 04:05 PM
#3
Pole Position
Hi Riknchar, you really miss the hybrid, don't you!
IMO, in the price range you are looking (mid to high 30s), you will be able to find a moderate mileage (60-70K) 2013 UltraLux 460L with all the bells and whistles (DRCC, APCC,LKA, BSM, RCTA). I have seen those recently, but none showed up in a quick search just now. I prefer the UltraLux to the Executive package, but knowing your family status, it probably makes little difference to you. The 2012 hL does not have BSM, RCTA, APCC or LKA. With a 2013+, you are also moving up in terms of technology and other major improvements that came with the 2013 refresh.
Regarding the CPO certification, maybe you know something, but I doubt very much that you can buy this car, then take it to your local Lexus dealer for CPO certification. That's not how the CPO process works.
IMO, in the price range you are looking (mid to high 30s), you will be able to find a moderate mileage (60-70K) 2013 UltraLux 460L with all the bells and whistles (DRCC, APCC,LKA, BSM, RCTA). I have seen those recently, but none showed up in a quick search just now. I prefer the UltraLux to the Executive package, but knowing your family status, it probably makes little difference to you. The 2012 hL does not have BSM, RCTA, APCC or LKA. With a 2013+, you are also moving up in terms of technology and other major improvements that came with the 2013 refresh.
Regarding the CPO certification, maybe you know something, but I doubt very much that you can buy this car, then take it to your local Lexus dealer for CPO certification. That's not how the CPO process works.
02-21-18, 04:10 PM
#4
Pole Position
MIleage is a tad high, decent service history every 7-8k miles but how about this all-the-options-except-AWD 13 LS460L?
https://www.mosssuperstore.com/vehic...GL1EF6D5048120
If my wife would let me, I'd seriously consider the 13 in a heartbeat...
https://www.mosssuperstore.com/vehic...GL1EF6D5048120
If my wife would let me, I'd seriously consider the 13 in a heartbeat...
02-21-18, 04:56 PM
#5
Instructor
Thread Starter
Hi Riknchar, you really miss the hybrid, don't you!
IMO, in the price range you are looking (mid to high 30s), you will be able to find a moderate mileage (60-70K) 2013 UltraLux 460L with all the bells and whistles (DRCC, APCC,LKA, BSM, RCTA). I have seen those recently, but none showed up in a quick search just now. I prefer the UltraLux to the Executive package, but knowing your family status, it probably makes little difference to you. The 2012 hL does not have BSM, RCTA, APCC or LKA. With a 2013+, you are also moving up in terms of technology and other major improvements that came with the 2013 refresh.
Regarding the CPO certification, maybe you know something, but I doubt very much that you can buy this car, then take it to your local Lexus dealer for CPO certification. That's not how the CPO process works.
IMO, in the price range you are looking (mid to high 30s), you will be able to find a moderate mileage (60-70K) 2013 UltraLux 460L with all the bells and whistles (DRCC, APCC,LKA, BSM, RCTA). I have seen those recently, but none showed up in a quick search just now. I prefer the UltraLux to the Executive package, but knowing your family status, it probably makes little difference to you. The 2012 hL does not have BSM, RCTA, APCC or LKA. With a 2013+, you are also moving up in terms of technology and other major improvements that came with the 2013 refresh.
Regarding the CPO certification, maybe you know something, but I doubt very much that you can buy this car, then take it to your local Lexus dealer for CPO certification. That's not how the CPO process works.
the 2013 looks decent also, but I really don’t want black and $90k miles is sort of at the upper edge of what I’m looking for. I’m really not in any huge hurry, and enjoy the hunt. I would probably be better off with a loaded LS460L than a 600hL in any event, but I do admire the true Lexus flagship LS600HL! The Executive seating is not critical to me, but would be very cool and unique. I do know I was pretty bummed by the depreciation hit I took on my LS600HL, and have been looking for an older LS460L (2008-2012) in the $20-25k range to minimize depreciation. I like the body style and interior of the 2008-2012 models just fine, though I don’t really mind the 2013 upgrade either.
02-21-18, 05:11 PM
#6
Racer
How about these LS460Ls ?
Comfort Plus Package and no Airshocks. Both well below 100K miles. I had my eye on these but someone needs to buy my 2008 swb for my asking price before I can entertain it
https://www.lexusofmerrillville.com/...-IN/3122619183
https://www.carmax.com/car/15179999
Comfort Plus Package and no Airshocks. Both well below 100K miles. I had my eye on these but someone needs to buy my 2008 swb for my asking price before I can entertain it
https://www.lexusofmerrillville.com/...-IN/3122619183
https://www.carmax.com/car/15179999
02-21-18, 08:31 PM
#7
Lexus Fanatic
I'd rather have a 13 LS460L highly optioned than a 12 LS600hL, although that 12 at that Porsche dealer is really nice...
Your situation is what kept me from getting the G90 before I got my 2017, I just had a feeling this would happen to me and once the vanity wore off I wouldn't feel as fulfilled by the car.
Your situation is what kept me from getting the G90 before I got my 2017, I just had a feeling this would happen to me and once the vanity wore off I wouldn't feel as fulfilled by the car.
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02-22-18, 04:25 AM
#8
Instructor
Thread Starter
I'd rather have a 13 LS460L highly optioned than a 12 LS600hL, although that 12 at that Porsche dealer is really nice...
Your situation is what kept me from getting the G90 before I got my 2017, I just had a feeling this would happen to me and once the vanity wore off I wouldn't feel as fulfilled by the car.
Your situation is what kept me from getting the G90 before I got my 2017, I just had a feeling this would happen to me and once the vanity wore off I wouldn't feel as fulfilled by the car.
02-22-18, 05:17 PM
#9
Instructor
Thread Starter
So the Atlanta Porsche dealer has grudgingly accepted my offer of $34k for their 2012 LS600hL. Now I have to make a final decision on whether to buy this car at that price...
Seems to me to be a pretty sweet deal for this car. The car is pretty loaded up, and has a complete Lexus service history. KBB retail is quite a bit higher, and I do think the car is worth $34k. Most of the early issues had been worked out by 2012, and I really prefer the older style body.
Any last thoughts from the forum on this car? I know Steve is more in favor of a 2013+ version, but I’m pretty taken by the older body and I love the 2012 instrument cluster in the LS600hLs...
Seems to me to be a pretty sweet deal for this car. The car is pretty loaded up, and has a complete Lexus service history. KBB retail is quite a bit higher, and I do think the car is worth $34k. Most of the early issues had been worked out by 2012, and I really prefer the older style body.
Any last thoughts from the forum on this car? I know Steve is more in favor of a 2013+ version, but I’m pretty taken by the older body and I love the 2012 instrument cluster in the LS600hLs...
02-22-18, 05:45 PM
#10
Lexus Fanatic
It’s minor differences and preferences. I think the 13+ cars are significantly more modern inside and out which is why I would go that way, and the concerns you had about the repair costs of the 600h still exist, all those reasons are why I would personally get a 13+ 460L for that money.
BUT, that’s a sharp car and looks to be in great shape. If that’s what speaks to you, I can’t imagine you finding a nicer pre- 13 600hL than that one
BUT, that’s a sharp car and looks to be in great shape. If that’s what speaks to you, I can’t imagine you finding a nicer pre- 13 600hL than that one
02-22-18, 05:46 PM
#11
Racer
Did you get to test drive a 2013+ and thoroughly play with all the toys ? I didn't see that in your post. Your budget get you a 2013. I like to 2017-2012 as well then recently I saw a nice grayish blue 2013+ LS460L with 19s drive by I was finally sold on the look.
02-22-18, 05:48 PM
#12
So the Atlanta Porsche dealer has grudgingly accepted my offer of $34k for their 2012 LS600hL. Now I have to make a final decision on whether to buy this car at that price...
Seems to me to be a pretty sweet deal for this car. The car is pretty loaded up, and has a complete Lexus service history. KBB retail is quite a bit higher, and I do think the car is worth $34k. Most of the early issues had been worked out by 2012, and I really prefer the older style body.
Any last thoughts from the forum on this car? I know Steve is more in favor of a 2013+ version, but I’m pretty taken by the older body and I love the 2012 instrument cluster in the LS600hLs...
Seems to me to be a pretty sweet deal for this car. The car is pretty loaded up, and has a complete Lexus service history. KBB retail is quite a bit higher, and I do think the car is worth $34k. Most of the early issues had been worked out by 2012, and I really prefer the older style body.
Any last thoughts from the forum on this car? I know Steve is more in favor of a 2013+ version, but I’m pretty taken by the older body and I love the 2012 instrument cluster in the LS600hLs...
The 600 is a very special animal, as you know (and need I remind you that you were one of the few that put the "crazy" idea in my head to get one back in 2014!), and that cluster is something special, for sure
. We don't have BSM, but we do get the self-park (totally gimmicky, but cool) feature. That, and the special cluster
I've been getting ready to offer you my car (spoken tongue-in-cheek), but at that price, if everything else checks out, it looks like this might be a winner.
02-22-18, 05:49 PM
#13
Racer
They a pretending to grudgingly accept your offer. I bet that thing would have sat and dropped dramatically in price till they gave it away.
The 2012 is now even older looking with the new LS500 out.
The 2012 is now even older looking with the new LS500 out.
02-22-18, 06:00 PM
#14
Instructor
Thread Starter
This is a good problem to have! Personally, I like the 2013+ style and, of course, the additional technology: not just the bigger NAV screen but also BSM, etc. Having said this, I'm not sure I could go 600hL to LS460L.
The 600 is a very special animal, as you know (and need I remind you that you were one of the few that put the "crazy" idea in my head to get one back in 2014!), and that cluster is something special, for sure. We don't have BSM, but we do get the self-park (totally gimmicky, but cool) feature. That, and the special cluster
I've been getting ready to offer you my car (spoken tongue-in-cheek), but at that price, if everything else checks out, it looks like this might be a winner.
The 600 is a very special animal, as you know (and need I remind you that you were one of the few that put the "crazy" idea in my head to get one back in 2014!), and that cluster is something special, for sure
. We don't have BSM, but we do get the self-park (totally gimmicky, but cool) feature. That, and the special clusterI've been getting ready to offer you my car (spoken tongue-in-cheek), but at that price, if everything else checks out, it looks like this might be a winner.
I know the smartest thing to do would be to buy a 460L with a solid Lexus history. I really do love the LS600s though, and if the worst thing that could happen is sudden hybrid battery failure, that’s probably not all that bad for years of amazing car ownership.
Still some details to be worked out on the Atlanta LS600HL. Any of our forum friends live in Atlanta? I get scared buying a car sight unseen!
Thanks to to all for the thoughts! I love this forum!
02-22-18, 06:15 PM
#15
Still some details to be worked out on the Atlanta LS600HL. Any of our forum friends live in Atlanta? I get scared buying a car sight unseen!
I am anxiously watching how you navigate this long distance purchase. I will be in the same boat in the next few months. All of the 460's I have found with the options I am looking for are at least 400 miles away or more. I know that Lemon Squad will do remote inspections but relying on someone else to qualify the vehicle is a bit scary. I have never purchased long distance.
Hopefully you can find a local CL member in Atlanta to check it out for you.