Test drove LS 500 - a quick comparison with 2014 LS
02-20-18, 11:11 AM
#16
Lexus Fanatic
02-20-18, 12:08 PM
#17
Lexus Test Driver
02-20-18, 03:10 PM
#18
Lexus Fanatic
I doubt he's mad. More like scratching his head, cuz what you said makes no sense.
First of all, as the older LS's get ....well....OLDER, younger buyers will start buying them up by the score. They will continue to post their mods and "VIP" (ugh) treatments, etc. This is what happened in the older BMW 7 series threads on Bimmerfest. Also, those same younger buyers (or older buyers who can't afford the $$ on a newer LS) will still be seeking advice, etc.
First of all, as the older LS's get ....well....OLDER, younger buyers will start buying them up by the score. They will continue to post their mods and "VIP" (ugh) treatments, etc. This is what happened in the older BMW 7 series threads on Bimmerfest. Also, those same younger buyers (or older buyers who can't afford the $$ on a newer LS) will still be seeking advice, etc.
02-20-18, 03:48 PM
#19
Racer
I agree, I don't know why Lexus seems to want to play 2nd fiddle to the Germans. They still have V8 engines WITH twin turbos. I would have been happy with a more polished 5.0 V8 from the ISF, GSF. If Lexus slapped turbos on the 5.0 then we'd be getting down to business ! There is NO replacement for displacement.
02-20-18, 06:44 PM
#20
Lexus Fanatic
Everybody else sells plenty of 6 cyl flagship cars. While I too would prefer the V8, I think th car and the forum will be fine.
02-20-18, 07:07 PM
#21
Lexus Fanatic
And no dealers have had the car “for weeks”, but no it’s not going to sell a ton. Nothing in the segment does.
02-20-18, 07:24 PM
#22
As a matter of fact 2018 MB S550 equipped with V6.
MB S450 : Turbocharged 3.0-Liter, V6, 24-Valve, 6, DOHC, DI Engine; Front/Longitudinal Mounted With Horsepower Of 362@5500, Torque Of 369@1600, Alloy Block and Alloy Cylinder HeadsHorsepower @ rpm362@5500Torque: 369@1600
LS 500: Turbocharged 3.5-Liter, V6, 24-Valve, 6, DOHC, DI Engine; Front/Longitudinal Mounted With Horsepower Of 416@6000, Torque Of 442@1600, Alloy Block and Alloy Cylinder Heads
Horsepower : 416@6000
Torque: 442@1600
The LS500 interior, material quality, workmanship is top notch. Very European like design and workmanship.
Where 500 lacks and in general Lexus is technology. If they don't catch up with European competitors and Tesla like, they will loose this luxury market share. It won't be due to 6 cylinders.
BTW, Bridgewater Lexus already sold 2 and 2 are pre-ordered. This without them having a demo 500!.
Last edited by satiger; 02-21-18 at 04:30 AM. Reason: Corrected model no
02-20-18, 09:44 PM
#23
Racer
I expect that the LS500 will have a V8 option sometime before the next Gen LS
02-21-18, 04:29 AM
#24
Again, you are missing the point. The original purchaser who is going to shell out $100k for a car has options to chose from and don't care much about V6 or V8. Car manufacturers have to tailor their design to match or beat the competition and also to original purchasers' taste/liking. They care less about secondary market. Unless its first sold, there is no secondary market
.There is a reason why one pays $1000 deposit and waits in months to get Tesla delivered. Also there is a reason why MB S continue to be number one seller in US in luxury market. Definitely not for engine and transmission design !!!!.
02-21-18, 07:08 AM
#26
Lexus Fanatic
You have to wait and see how buyers who actually can buy these cars will behave, and seeing that the majority of every other flagship model, S class, 7, A8, Jag XJ, G90 buyers choose the V6/I6 over the costlier V8 there is no reason to assume that buyers will reject the LS because it has a V6 other than your own bias.
Like I said, I was pissed about the V6 until I realized that when looking at those other cars, I wouldn’t have upgraded to the V8 either. If I wouldn’t get the V8, why do I care if there is a V8?
I haven’t driven the new LS yet, but again sayings it’s like a car that is 12 inches shorter, $30,000 cheaper and 800 lbs lighter just because it has a V6 doesn’t make any sense , and again shows your own bias.
You wont buy the car without a V8, we get it. Then you aren’t a new flagship buyer anyways so what does it matter?
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02-21-18, 07:57 AM
#27
BTW, Lexus never went after BMW. They always try to compete with MB. In that regard I do see LS500 interior matches or even exceeds European competitors. In my mind Lexus made the right decision and built accordingly to cater certain sector of luxury car buyers.
BTW, I wonder where did that 'engine' and 'transmission' of my Tesla go????? I don't find that under the hood. I should return that to Elon Musk
Last edited by satiger; 02-21-18 at 08:04 AM.
