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Old 07-17-17, 07:34 AM   #1
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I just recently upgraded my wife's car (literally this past weekend) so this won't be happening anytime soon but I want to get your opinions on anyone that has gone from a 2007 to a 2013. The only real feature I have is the navigation/Mark Levinson other than that it's pretty standard. I would avoid the AWD and the hybrid versions (less to go wrong). I don't really care for air although I have switched a vehicle from air to shock and spring myself before so I wouldn't be completely opposed to it. Appreciate your thoughts.
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Despite Lexus' assertions to the contrary, there's very little change in the 2007-2012 to the 2013-2017. It's mostly cosmetic. There's the mouse (-ve in my opinion), "improved" ML system (-ve in my opinion), improved media handling (an improvement over the 2007-2009), drive mode changes and a few new options are about it from a functionality standpoint. The drivetrain and running gear are pretty much identical. The fact that it's a 6 year newer car may appeal also.
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Despite Lexus' assertions to the contrary, there's very little change in the 2007-2012 to the 2013-2017. It's mostly cosmetic. There's the mouse (-ve in my opinion), "improved" ML system (-ve in my opinion), improved media handling (an improvement over the 2007-2009), drive mode changes and a few new options are about it from a functionality standpoint. The drivetrain and running gear are pretty much identical. The fact that it's a 6 year newer car may appeal also.
Um, mostly cosmetic usually means its a differently looking vehicle The difference in 2007-2012 to the 2013-2017 is very clear in and out and not just a minor refresh. It is about as equal a change compare to a 2007-2011 GS350 to a 2013-2016 GS350.
I have an 2008 and will go for a 2013-2017 over the 2010-2012 in the future since it is a significant enough of a change.
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IMHO the interior changes alone are significant enough to upgrade. IMHO the additional stitching, better materials, etc in the 13-17 make it feel like a much nicer car.
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IMHO the interior changes alone are significant enough to upgrade. IMHO the additional stitching, better materials, etc in the 13-17 make it feel like a much nicer car.
Quick question for SW15LS. How do you like the light gray interior of you new car?
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Quick question for SW15LS. How do you like the light gray interior of you new car?
I love it. I love that it has the contrast of the black carpet. Dingy worn grey carpets look crummy IMHO. The grey goes well with the linear shimamoku wood too.
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I love it. I love that it has the contrast of the black carpet. Dingy worn grey carpets look crummy IMHO. The grey goes well with the linear shimamoku wood too.
Thanks! I really love how it looks. I have parchment now and like it, but I want the light grey next time!! Some say the light colors are hard to keep clean, but I have never had a problem.
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I haven't done much readings on 13+ model but had an opportunity to drive 16 model as a loaner. Just comparing radar cruise alone, there is a definite improvement over previous years model. Its very smooth on deceleration and acceleration compare to mine.

But if one can wait, used 2018 models will hit the market in couple of years. I am hoping Lexus to revamp and improve/catchup of their outdated technology integration with 2018+ models.
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Thanks! I really love how it looks. I have parchment now and like it, but I want the light grey next time!! Some say the light colors are hard to keep clean, but I have never had a problem.
Yeah I never had an issue either, only with the carpets and having the black carpet solves that.
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I think the ultimate used car would be a 2013 and up LS460 because the new styling in my opinion is fantastic (inside and out) and you get the tried and true drivetrain of the 460, with all the problems/bugs removed. I have an 07 and I've had very very few problems, I can only imagine what a model that is six years newer would be like. It's the same suspension, same engine, same transmission...except improved. That sounds like a massive value play in the used car market. Massive.
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I think the ultimate used car would be a 2013 and up LS460 because the new styling in my opinion is fantastic (inside and out) and you get the tried and true drivetrain of the 460, with all the problems/bugs removed. I have an 07 and I've had very very few problems, I can only imagine what a model that is six years newer would be like. It's the same suspension, same engine, same transmission...except improved. That sounds like a massive value play in the used car market. Massive.
Agreed. The problem is there is not a lot of inventory. Sales for the LS have been very weak over the past several years and cars coming in from trade or off lease are few and far between (great condition cream puffs). I am having difficulty finding a low mileage 2013+ 460L, that is not black. I check Car Gurus at least 2x per week, but not much around New England. Might have to expand my search into the middle of the country or out west. I am in no rush, so as time goes by we are getting closer to the release of the all new LS and hopefully there will be a flurry of trade-ins to get into the new LS. I am also worried that if I buy now, once the new LS is released the value of the 460 will drop quickly. The search continues......
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It's the same suspension, same engine, same transmission...except improved.
I don't think any changes were made to any of these items.
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I don't think any changes were made to any of these items.
Little changes are made all the time throughout the production run to address issues. Control arms were improved to address premature failure, etc.
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